Climbing Rose for Garage Trellises
Tara Kennedy
7 years ago
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Comments (14)cj, I always think a trellis design complete with the type of materials used should be determined by the surroundings and whether it is to be free standing or not. Then you kind of get the curved vs straight feel and pick the materials accordingly. I'm up to almost 20 climbers now between fences and trellis' of various types. I've done some that are solid copper, some that are a combination of copper and cedar, some that are a combo of treated 4x4 and lattice. Treated lumber w/ cedar gets you 10 years minimum. Copper and rebar get you almost forever. Each time I build one I like to try and make it unique. I'm getting ready to do one for my niece that wraps around the end of the deck I built her last year. I need to give her back the privacy she lost with the deck being so much higher. I'm thinking of designing a combo painted wire mesh and cedar....See MorePerennial Climbing Vines for 2 trellises
Comments (3)I got an Akebia this spring which is supposed to flower at least a little all year, but as is usually the case with vines (and many other plants!) it's spending its energy growing so far. Also have at various times planted climbing roses--some do very well, some need to be sprayed to do well. Need to do some research. I can see why you wouldn't want passifloras as the caterpillars really chew 'em up, but the butterflies sure are nice! Of course there are tender perennial/annual vines like Thunbergia and Ipomoea (morningglory, moonvine, several others). Oh, and Hyacinth Bean--forget its name--someone on another forum was saying how pleased she was with her white flowered one, which even has white pods!...See MoreClimbing Rose Questions
Comments (13)Hi Garcanad - thanks for explaining the parameters of your project. It's easier to visualize what you mean when you describe your structure, and also when you mention that you've already planted the first five roses you mention and are wondering how well they'll fit what you envision. First of all, as fduk says, it takes at least 3-4 years for any climber to reach a decent climbing size and start blooming, so if you need to replace any rose every year it won't meet your vision even as a small shrub sized rose. If you're going to replace a rose every year, choose something modest sized with a visual "pow" toward the front of that bed, better yet in pots so it's easy to replace (or bring inside to an insulated but cool place like an unheated garage so it has at least a chance of surviving the winter). You have at least 3 roses that are likely to survive well enough to climb in your zone - Night Owl, Amadeus, and Jasmina. In my experience, only Night Owl is likely to have the profusion of bloom as a climber that you envision. What I'd do as a supplemental plan, since you mention wanting to shorten your learning curve, is to plant at least two GUARANTEED climbers at each end of the structure you mention so that they will frame the bed with climbing blooms, and let them grow toward the middle of your structure. The only caution is that you need to make sure that your structure is sturdy enough for this plan. Virtually all of the Canadian Explorers could easily pull over a single pole or series of free-standing poles in a good wind, but they are reliable climbers and bloomers in your zone. My recommendation would be Quadra for repeat bloom in the season, but he's a fair thug of a rose. A true thug like New Dawn would stretch across this within a few seasons, but I suspect it would eat your structure for lunch. Other guaranteed climbers would include Ramblin Red, Teasing Georgia (a yellow Austin), any of the Explorers, Felix LeClerc, Reine des Violettes, Rosarium Uetersen, Lunar Mist, Dixieland Linda, or Colette (I listed a range of colors for you to consider). The mini climber "Jeanne LaJoie" also gets quite large and blooms off and on all season. This leaves you a lot more freedom for the middle plants to play around with what you like, and not expect them to climb necessarily. I'd definitely plan to grow clematis around the middle poles, since it sounds like the type of structure you have is more suited to clematis than roses with their big heavy canes. Unless your poles are sunk in concrete, if they're freestanding poles they may not last long with much weight of roses on them. In my zone, clematis does extremely well and is a nice "instant gratification" climber that blooms well within a year or so. That way you can get the climbing effect more easily and fill in the middle with a profusion of large shrubs and other roses. I'm firmly a fan of the kind of intermingled roses you describe, but even with shrubs it'll take a good 3 years before they reach their preferred size. Patience is a rose gardener's best friend. Cynthia...See MoreBest Climbing Roses for Rose Hips?
Comments (5)The bit about there being male and female setigeras I've heard before. However, it certainly doesn't agree with what I've seen. It is possible that setigera isn't self-fertile. It is a once-bloomer, being the latest of those that bloom here. It starts in late July, and if the summer is particularly hot and dry, will stop blooming until the fall rains. It supposedly isn't an easy rose to hybridize with, but there are a collection of early 19th century American cultivars. Oh man, that is a blast from the past. I still know that rose as 'The Gift x Sweet Chariot'. I don't know why it wouldn't be a good rose for birds, but who knows where you can get it currently. In New Hampshire, it was definitely a small, mounded rose....See MorenanadollZ7 SWIdaho
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