Color scheme garden planning: roses and companions
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Comments (8)Well, I disagree with Harry. I think it depends on what part of SE PA you are in. I'm more central, in the Susquahanna Valley, Lancaster Co. within a quarter mile of the Susquehanna River and Conestoga River delta. I have Double Delight in my garden that is super. It's low growing about 4' tall and is one of the fullest disease resistant roses in my garden. It's the sub-climate, I'm sure. Gemini gets much taller, say about 7' in my garden and is a good rose for the back of the garden as is Veteran's Honor. Fragrant Cloud is about mid range (Double Delight size) as well as Iceberg. Our Lady of Guadalope is squatty and needs to be in the front. Yes, you will have to treat for black spot, but I prefer a systemic rather than a spray. Bayer has a good one out that helps to keep black spot to a minimum. I've also found that if you keep the bushes well fed and ground watered, black spot is again kept to a minimum. Use an organic fertilizer and a drip system for them. Keep the moisture off the leaves and all dead leaves cleaned up from around the bottom of the plants. I actually, very rarely water -- only when drought threatens them and they are showing signs of stress. Most of my roses are now quite established and can fend off drought conditions. Yes humidity does play a factor with the black spot and that is why you must treat for it. They will still show some sign of it even if you help the plant be as strong as possible. That is what the systemic is for. You can also pull off the leaves as they get it as well. As far as Austin roses -- well, it is a taste that is learned, I suppose. To me, Austin roses in this area are no better than the HTs. Each one is just as different as the next, some have good disease resistance, others are just ronchy. I have two Austin roses (the only ones left). Tamora which is looking at the shovel this year, or at least moved to a pot where I think it might be better. And Shaifra Asma which was planted in memory of a friend and will stay. SA does appear to be a good plant so far. Another thought would be to plant own-root roses. No matter if they are HTs, Austins, Polyanthas or what, own-root roses have better strength and disease resistance in our area. Your selection of roses are beautiful....See MoreOrange rose/companion plant color combo?
Comments (14)I particularly like the idea of the dramatic color combination, like the dark violet/deep red/orange combo that was suggested. The french lavender + artichoke already have pastel purple flowers and the silvery leaves there, and with the white rose in the back I'm worried the colors will be too "pastelly". I saw some California poppies "Mikado" seeds in the store today, so I'm thinking that dark flame orange color will do well if I place it in front of the light orange rose (there should be enough contrast between the two colors right?). Or does Echinacea have similar shades of dark orange/red? I like Agastaches as well, but would the scent conflict with the scents of the 2 David Austin roses I'll be planting? or do they have separate bloom seasons so it wouldn't matter? So many wonderful ideas, thank you! I'm going to have to compile a list of the plants everyone suggested and their respective pictures because I'm not familiar with a lot of the plants that were suggested (relatively newbie gardener here). Really excited to see what all the suggested plants might look like! :) This post was edited by technoduckling on Mon, Mar 4, 13 at 2:53...See MoreTrying to plan roses in garden
Comments (25)rosymominzone9, we're all whistlin' in the wind until we see whatcher working with, both in terms of your exisiting garden and your plant list. OGR's aren't one thing. Yes, structures are wonderful if you like spending time in the garden fussing, trimming and tidying. Almost everything that you'd want to grow on a structure can be grown as a ginormous shrub instead and especially informally supported by a perimeter fence on one side only, cascading down in front. It's a matter of your time, space and age. Me, I grow anything that doesn't crawl as a "haystack," i.e. a big shrub, so I don't have to spend hours each and every year (a) on a ladder wielding sharps, and (b) tying, pruning and training throughout the growing season. When you're willing to put in that time commitment year after year, every year without exception, the results on structures are stunning. The proviso with big haystacks is that experience teaches us that you need to have some access to the basal canes underneath to periodically remove old wood. See, climbing roses grown as shrubs will kill off an infrsastructure underneath to form their own scaffolding and then grow to almost indeterminant size if you don't exercise some control. Corrals work wonderfully and don't involve climbing to the top of a ladder while dodging prickly canes, armed with scissors and twine. You need to study gardens. Grow out your bands in 5 gallon pots for a month and visit great gardens in your area to see both what the mature plants look like and to see who they are trained. Planting roses next to a path can be done, assuming that means planting them at least 6 feet away from the path and they are carefully selected. Zone 9 roses will grow 2 to 3 times larger than the the sizes listed in most rose books. The exception is polyanthas, which are outstanding front-of-the-border roses, both because of more moderate size and outstanding rebloom. Post some cell phone shots of the garden as is and let's see the list of roses in the same post. We may be able to save you some of the mistakes we've all made....See MoreOther Rose Companion Colors for Red Roses
Comments (6)Here's red with a little bit of everything around it: Here's red accompanied by white and a strong gold-yellow (I usually think the strong yellows work best with a bright red): Dusty Miller (annual) will beautifully downplay the bright red rose: Once more--just cuz its pretty: I really like whites next to my reds--provides a "cool" balance. Here is Gourmet Popcorn rose (planted next to the William Shakespeare 2000 you can't see in the pic): Here is white Hardy Garden Geranium growing at the feet of one of my red roses. I have the white Hardy Garden Geranium growing by a number of my red roses--gives a really airy, lacey effect to the garden--quite charming! Here's another Hardy White Garden Geranium floating around the feet of a red rose and a pink rose next to it. (I like this pic.) Here's pic my daughter took of climbing red Dublin Bay and a white climbing clematis mixed in with it. Light blue iris in the middle of my rose bed which has lots of red roses looks spectacular in the spring: As you can see, I like whites, silvers, and pale blues as cooling contrasts with my reds, and I like strong yellow-golds to compete with the hot reds. An occasional light pink rose in there gives some pleasing variety. Hope that gives you some ideas. Kate...See Moretitian1 10b Sydney
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