I am no expert but that looks like a pretty healthy cane to me.

Thank you Seil. I lost 25 bush of roses over the last two years and any signs of RRD scare me.

25 bushes! How did you rule out herbicide damage?

Most of them were obvious. Some of them I didn't want to take chance. It was heart broken when I pulled them out. But I am over it now because if it wasn't for RRD, I would not come across this forum and find out the real rose world. I am happy to say that all the wonderful rose people in this forum had created an addict out of me. Thank you.

I would say it's possible but not obvious. Cane diameters look good. Distance between leaf sets seems off as well as the rough leaf texture. If you follow the bottom break on the last photo. Follow it up on the right there is a very long narrow red leaf and also on the break from that stem almost behind it. I would be concerned as well but would not remove the rose. Wait for Ann if to weight in. Other than that keep a very close eye on it. I have had enough rrd that if it were mine and I had those long narrow leaves I would remove that cane.

Please don't worry to much because of what I said. I simply practice better save than sorry. I am quite certain that I have removed more than one healthy cane.

Another odd thing but don't know what the cause might be. Many of the rugose looking leaves haven't the correct veining. Wonder what that might be?

Where are you located at? Odd growth can often be attributed to weather conditions. I still don't think this resembles any of the RRD I've seen before.

I live in Edmond, OK. 7b

Not an expert. This is the first year that I got hit by RRD. Three bushes already. Could be herbicide damage, but it was my rose, I would just cut the cane at ground level. Better to be safe than sorry.

I will cut them tomorrow. Thank you every much for all your advice.

I'm not sure what your weather has been, but I garden at the same degrees north of the equator as you do and I just don't see that kind of growth this late in the season. Not enough hours of sunlight to make new growths, especially at every node along a stem.

Is there any chance that that rose is on fortuniana rootstock? Most other rootstock and own-rootedness just won't push growth.

Other possibility: a great thuderstorm that deposited lots of N rich water? But that should have affected other roses, as well.

Back when I came up with the three adjectives: Aberrant, excessive, and unexpected.....as cautions. To me, that cane fits two: excessive and unexpected.

After removing that cane, if I were you I'd use a shovel to cut a cylinder around that rose, just to try to avoid any root-to-root graft spread problems that might happen.

Ann

Ann, it is own root. I cut out 3 of those big shoots today and still have uneasy feeling about it even it doesn't look exactly like RRD to me. I don't want to loose a beautiful rose but I have too many other rose to protect (183 roses). Should I just pull it to free the worry? I know I got into roses at a very bad time. It seems like the whole city are under the RRD's spell. And nobody doing anything about it.

One thing you need to do is map your yard and figure out air flow. In every home/yard there will be places where the vector mites tend to be dropped out of the air. Other places where the air flow increases and the mites are carried through. Flat walls that drop mites because the air flow drops to near 0mph.

Then plot where your problems have been this year. Omit any lost Hybrid Musks (in some gardens they seem to have a heightened susceptibility). Try to find a pattern and try to figure out where the places are where it's not a good idea to plant roses (or to plant roses that you've fallen out of 'like' with.

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Ann

Rosecollector,
On "All my roses" is one thing, on a single cane on a multicaned bush is very different.

I'm glad you don't have RRD. I've dealt with it for more than fifteen years and I am cited in the published literature. I'm not new to the problem.

What I've tried to do is help people avoid getting RRD in their gardens and finding out too late what the problem is.

Over a decade ago when I spoke at the national ARS in Philadelphia, a woman from north central Arkansas came up to me after the talk. She had come to the meeting specifically for my talk as she had lost 70% of her hybrid teas to RRD and no one in your area could help her at all.

Now that Federal Funds are being devoted to the problem, you have a local specialist who you can pay to do a PCR test and she has a website with a few of the symptoms. So you are lucky to finally have an expert working for your state.

Thanh, Dennis and Renee Niklas are in Guthrie, about 20 miles from you. Dennis' number is 405-850-7520.

In my non professional opinion it has shown its true self RRD. Got ugly fast for fall weather. Seems you have a fairly good eye for seeing rrd early on.

In agreement with Patty. You have developed an 'eye' for when things don't look right.

There are people out there who are clueless and would just say to add fertilizer.

Thank you Patty and Ann. I feel better knowing I am not killing the healthy rose. It will be 'out' tomorrow.

I forgot to mention that I am very sorry about your rose and the predicament your in with so much rrd in your area. There are some small steps that you can take to lesson your rrd chances. Won't eliminate all cases but does help. Beginning with not planting roses where the air slows or comes to a stop as those will cause the mites to drop out of the air and right on your bush.

Patty, since I discovered this rose forum I simply cannot stop from thinking about new spot for more roses. It's gonna be hard to leave any empty space. I guess I will just pull the sick plant and replace with new ones until the day I run out of fund or love for roses

Thanh Kieu despite my advice I've done the same thing. I now have roses up against my house on the south side. I know the wind drops there. Unfortunately it is also one of the best spots in my yard for roses. I will be vigilant and hope for the best.