Need repeat bloomer, thornless or nearly
Sara-Ann Z6B OK
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Comments (28)I have a wonderful reblooming swamp rose, probably 'Scandens' that has only an occasional thorn down in the base. The guy I got mine from has 4 plants about 4'x4' and I ran my hands through the tops numerous times to see just how thornless they are. I have 3 now myself, hoping they will get as big as his. Alas they drop leaves in the drought and get some BS (he sprays) so mine don't bloom as continously as his do. The flowers are semidouble and fragrant. A couple of times when I visited his garden he asked "Do you smell that?" (I did) and pointed at a swamp rose upwind of us. I also got some kind of a gallica from him that has no thorns. Pinky mauve, double, what is it's name? Bell de Crecy! Never mind getting a cutting, if it's own root ask if you can dig around your friend's plant a little bit. Nobody mentioned Therese Bugnet, which is thorny at the base but no thorns in the top of the plant. It only seems to bloom once in the south, but my friend in Minn reported it repeated for him up there. I have a row of thornless climbers (Crepescule, Tausandschon, Ghislaine) planted between two thorny rows to be able to move around better. Ghislaine is pricklier than I expected, and I'm afraid that the thrips that ruin Buff Beauty every spring will get it too....See MoreHelp! Thornless or slightly thornless for South GA! Any Ideas?
Comments (18)Hi GAgal. I'm in north FL, same zone as you. I have pretty much the same weather and soil as south GA. One that does well in my garden, that fits your requirements for the smaller rose is Clotilde Soupert. Not totally thornless but few and far between. One of the first to bloom in the spring, she laughs at our hot humid summers, and will still be blooming at Christmas. The flower opens more in dry weather, can ball a little in wet, though I find it quite charming. Lovely old fashioned powder scent (to me). I've had her I guess close to 10 yrs now. I see in your last post you are wondering about a rose for a teepee. Again, in my own yard Don Juan has been a real survivor and bloomer. But not thornless. Do you need thornless there too? Have you checked into any of the tea roses, they do well in this area. Are there any rose gardens near you? It's so helpful to be able to actually see real roses growing in your area. Donna...See MoreThornless Rose Rankings
Comments (20)I like to use the Peter Beales Classic Roses website for things like this. You can choose to search by thorniness, and they have a category for 'No Thorns' and 'Not Many Thorns' or similar. Then next to each rose, if you click on them, they have a thorniness rating from 0 to 10, with 0 being smooth roses like Zeffy and 10 being some hard-core rugosas. I only have a few 100% thorn-free roses, including Zephirine Drouhin and her sports Kathleen Harrop and Martha, Reines des Violettes, the banksia roses, and Renae (can't get Annie Laurie McDowell here in Oz, so I must settle for Renae). I'm pretty sure the Hybrid Musk rose Nur Mahal is totally smooth too. The other roses I have with hardly any thorns are all Noisettes and Chinas, and I don't know how they would go for you in zone 6, but I can tell you about them if you would like. Other than that, a couple of my Austin's have hardly any thorns at all - somewhere between 0 and 1 on your scale - Windermere is a good example. I am also told that the Delbard climber called Nahema is almost smooth (DA's Heritage is one of its parents, which is not particularly thorny for me, so that figures), it's also very fragrant, repeat blooming, and has very double blooms, so it may be worth looking into. (I certainly will be!). This post was edited by muscovyduckling on Fri, Jul 25, 14 at 3:34...See MoreYour favorite thornless or nearly so rose?
Comments (17)I add my vote for 'Mrs. Dudley Cross' as my favorite smooth stemmed rose.. Really rapid re-bloom. Mrs. D. has a similar wide bloom to Marie van Houtte and where I live Mrs. Dudely Cross is more prettily colored most of the year, she shows a creamy center with blush pink to rose-red edges depending on hot or cool weather. We rarely ever see the yellow in M.van Houtte which usually only comes out in the cooler days of Autumn. Mrs. D. is a smaller plant than Marie Van Houtte which a.r.e. says is like " Mrs. Dudley Cross on Steroids", but M.van H. has masses of big red thorns and can grow easily to be 8 feet in all directions, ready to snag and scratch the skin of an unwary gardener, so not suitable for a small garden, while Mrs. Dudley Cross can be espaliered against a house and kept at c. 5 feet tall by 3 and 1/2 feet from wall to pathway making a very pretty "wall of roses" affect. 'Mme. Berkeley' hasn't a great number of prickles and so I have her growing near a pathway too, she is my favorite pink blend Tea. I wish I hadn't been impatient and bought two 'Blossomtime' for a front arbor because they were on rootstock and would cover the arbor rapidly compared to an own root Tea-Noisette. I hope to never settle again on, what would turn out to be for me, an inconvenient rose. I've heard that Aimee Vibert' is thornless and if that is true I'm thinking of buying one to hide a big stack of meters on the back of my house, and plant the rosebush on the corner of a tall fence and allowed to grow over a swing-out lattice built like a doorway to cover an ugly display of 4 meters. If I remember right her foliage is very beautiful, which is another great plus for me. Luxrosa...See MoreSara-Ann Z6B OK
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