I have 2 baby Cardinal Humes in pots, and they do seem to be growing horizontally. Are they good candidates for pegging, say in a 12' circle if I put both of them close together in the center? They seem to get some BS, so I'm thinking they should be sprayed. Mine are own-root. How do you grow yours? Thanks. Sherry

Yep, gardeners are nice folks, Lauren! Nice haul! YOu've got it bad now! :P Here we go: 1. Ledebouria socialis, Silver Squill 2. Aloe 'Pink Blush' (most likely-on the market now) 3. Haworthia retusa (maybe var. retusa, as well) 4. Sempervivum sp. 5. Kalanchoe fedtschenkoi 6. Sedum nussbaumerianum 7. you got it, Euphorbia milii ~Rosemarie

If it's Francee, it's small, but I've only had it since last May. So, we may be looking at an immature Francee. If so, it really loves my house, as usually, Francee is supposed to have moderate growth. It's probably not Green Gold, as GG is supposed to come up with yellow edges. this one is white. Allan P. McConnell does not have a glacous (sp?) underside, this one does. I don't remember if it's fragrant. We'll see in August. When you try to ID one, you're struck by how many possibilites there are. With 4,000 known varieties, how many unknown varieties are there? Thanks guys, it makes this one more interesting. bkay

Some of you guys underestimate the strength of raptor birds, including the red tailed hawk. I am from Albania and all my life was in contact with birds. I breed canaries, pigeons,chickens,rabbits and other animals. Several times we had to experience episodes involving birds of prey which were a permanent threat to our birds and animals. Once we had a lamb that disappeared and only days later we found parts of the carcass about three kilometers away (about 2 miles). Not far from there was a nest of turkey vultures. We concluded that it was the vultures that had killed the lamb. The lamb weighted about 8-10 kilograms (about 20-24 pound). It was summer time and we knew that it was not a wolf because they never (almost) kill lambs in that time of the year. Now you do the math; the lamb was at least 3-4 times heavier than the vulture. In another episode a hawk took a pigeon almost from my hand; I was holding the pigeon when all of a sudden a hawk was plunging toward me and I released the pigeon because confused and scared. In matter of tenths or hundredths of a second the pigeon was under the hawks claws. Several other times we had pigeons or chickens killed by birds of prey. I am not proud to say it, but I had to kill several hawks over years. I was young and only saw it as a threat and I believed that it was my right to kill them in order to defend my birds. In another occasion we captured a hawk and kept it for several days in a cage. It refused to eat for 4-5 days, and after advice from my father I released it. Anyway, my advice is for all of you who have animals weighting under 10 pounds to not underestimate the strength of birds of prey. They can carry up to 4 times their body weight. Be careful guys