I will see if I can find some dimensions of the wall with the fridge!

not totally on page with the concept of your two areas for seating. The banquette isn't really conducive as people get pinned in.The few seats at island don't provide the full seating that you need. Maybe run a long narrow farmhouse table right down the middle of your space instead of island for 3....or run a table up and down over on left side. Measurements are needed for entire space. If your long term need is seating, and you want it comfortable, not just for kids, but adult and social seating, then you need to be realistic about this as your feature. In otherwords, dedicating floorspace to chairs ,legs ,and movement for 6 means use those wall areas on your perimeter L for storage cabinets. Where is the dining room...is it just formal or special use??

Can't really say without measurements but seems like the banquette as depicted would seat two, maybe 1 or 2 more with chairs pulled up to the round table. If the table was rectangular you might be able to squeeze in 1 or 2 more small kids but not sure it would work for teenagers and adults. Toddlers might be cool with crawling under the table to get in and out but teens and adults won't be.

I realize there is a group of folks on this board who are very strong advocates for banquette seating but it does work best when no one has to sit in the middle. 4 pre-teens and teens would always be fighting over who has to sit in the middle. Teens being teens someone will refuse to scoot over or refuse to get up to let someone else get into the middle. No one (travelling alone) chooses a middle seat in an airplane if there is an aisle or window available.

If you want everyday seating for 6 I'd focus on EITHER a larger table or larger island seating (unless you are OK with splitting up the family with some seated at counter and some at the small table).

Yes when I get home I will find one of the 2D drawings with measurements. I agree that corner seating isn't great. What I remember from the plans is I have 115 inches from wall to wall on the fridge side, and 200 inches from edge of patio door to wall (about 83 inches from patio door to the window). Ideally, the island was going to be 7 ft with three seated on one side and one on the end. I was hoping to have some sort of shallow pantry/storage cabinet in the space and initial drawing the cabinet maker put one opposite the patio door. I know I want a regular table in the kitchen.....but I only had separate dining room for the last 12 years so we do plan on using the "formal" dining room. Currently, we only have one table but plan on buying one for the new kitchen. Any thoughts on appliance lay out? I promise to get those drawings loaded. I appreciate your thoughts!

One thing you could do is put a 30" wide double oven alongside the fridge and then put an appliance garage in the corner. I think the tradeoff for your design will be whether you want any upper cabinets since the only uppers in the main kitchen are between the fridge and the window. If you don't have any upper cabinets where will you store glasses? I could see storing infrequently used wine glasses or beer mugs over in the breakfast area hutch but everyday water/juice would typically be wanted closer to the dishwasher. It is possible to store glasses in drawers but personally I don't think that's the most efficient option.

It also looks like your dishwasher is boxed into the corner. which will make loading and unloading less inconvenient (especially if you are putting glasses/dishes in the uppers next to the fridge as the open door will be blocking access). Could you put the sink and dishwasher on the island?

I have had a few layouts drawn. This is one of them that has measurements. After looking at a lot of pictures pretty much everyone had a vent hood by itself so I think I need to lose those upper cabinets. Yes, it would be nice to get dishwasher out of corner! Currently, it is left of our sink.

I like the appliance layout in this one but think the fridge and oven need a few more inches of space. I also think I would want cabinets where the shelving is placed. Either all cabinets wrapped to oven or cabinets and then shelving by oven. Is it possible to get small table for six and seating for four at the island....and wall ovens....then I would have it all. : ) Also, on the top view diagram where you see that 8 there is approx 6ft opening into the kitchen. There is 61 3/4 inch of space to the left. Could I put a 12 inch dept pantry cabinet there....and still have clearance behind the island?

Sorry, pics didn't send with my last comment. This was the appliance layout I liked so I can have a separate cook top but it needs some work. I would rather not move the cook top down from the dishwasher and then I could fit regular drawers instead of two skinny pull outs.

Where will you prep? The most natural place to prep is between sink and cooktop and you don't have enough room.

Can you please post a 2d plan of your WHOLE floor layout with all your rooms. We need to see how the flow works for the kitchen

I was hoping that if I left the island space empty I could prep on that counter space. I do not want a cook top on it and I like my sink in front of window. If my fridge is tucked in one end of the L, I thought my cook top (or or range if I go that route) would have to be left of the sink.

Sort of off topic, but when I think of a Scandinavian kitchen, I think back to my cousins Copenhagen studio that had a burner with a hose (think HD chem lab) and one 24" cabinet plus a sink and dorm sized refrig (all my relatives had similar sized refrigerators). Pretty sure you are thinking of a different Scandinavian style :)

Can anyone offer any other ideas? I'm thinking of trying and keep a table in the eat in area and lose the idea of cabinets in that part of space. I have 61 inches of wall space behind island. I could rethink the big island idea and make it less deep so I could utilize that piece of wall. How much space do you need between cabinetry and back of island where people would be seated at stools, 36 inches?

you could have such a different large space if dining room and family room were switched. Use the whole back area for open plan space once the wall is removed - the wall between current kitchen and dining room. Include a long range plan to extend exterior deck across the whole back with a second patio door.

Yes, unfortunately that is out of the question. It was considered in the beginning but was too costly so I laid that idea to rest. Someday I need to swap out my green shower, blue toilet, and gold bath tub so I can't blow all of my money on the kitchen! : )

Can you move the sink or the stove? A ton of activity is centered over your dishwasher - think about grabbing veggies out of the fridge - the natural prep space - as cpartist noted is between sink and stove. That's the smallest expanse of counter you have. I see that you have the DW to the right of the sink - but it's not optimal having this small prep space.

I was thinking I would prep on island. I realize maybe it's not ideal but I'm trying to make it work. In one plan we have dishwasher left of sink and then wall oven next to fridge. That option gives me a little more room between cook top and sink.