I am looking for Michelia Champaca seeds or seedlings. I have fresh seeds available of Ylang-Ylang (Perfume tree)= Cananga odorata. Will also trade these for other seeds in my want list. Please, contact me if you want to trade.

I asked the seller for the Thai name of the variety he is selling and he says it is called 'Champi Si Thong' (Gold-color Michelia) and it is distinct from 'Champi Sinuan' in that is darker, while he reffered to 'Sinuan' as powderpuff peach color. Dr. Kukiat also thinks 'Sinuan' is just a variety of M. champaca. Now I wonder if 'Golden' that he sells and the one as seen on TT's website is the same variety that starts off a creamy color and darkens as the flower ages. That characteristic makes me suspect that 'Golden' might be a hybrid between M. x alba, if it even makes viable pollen, and M. champaca. Whatever the case, he is selling some very hard to find Michelias and Annonaceae. I just had to apply for an import permit to buy these plants as California customs are ruthless LOL. TTropicals hasn't had anything like the varieties he is selling in years.... Just to be safe, do not buy the Talauma (aka Magnolia liliifera). For what it's worth, he told me that Magnolia liliifera is one of the strongest scented Magnoliaceae that he sells. But there is a variety of M. liliifera that is on the CITES list, that is Magnolia liliifera var. obvata. Besides, Logee's is selling a 1 foot tall plant for $20.

M. alba I believe is normally propagated by grafting (onto M. champaca I think). Don't know whether this is due to the difficulty of propagating from seed or growing from cuttings, or whether the alba doesn't come true from seed. Possibly all of the above. M. champaca is grown on its own rootstock and is not too difficult to grow from seed, provided the seed is fresh enough and the temperature is warm enough. I tried numerous times to grow it from ebay-bought seed but had always sowed them in spring or early summer, when nights can still occasionally be fresh. (I don't have a heat mat.) It was only when I sowed seed in mid-summer, when night temperatures hover around 20-20 deg C (about 70 deg F) that they germinated. So they need 24-hour warmth (ie no cool nights), and humidity (I misted them with water and covered with plastic) to germinate. I believe that the champaca DOES come true from seed. Unless, perhaps, there are other species of michelia in the vicinity with which it has hybridised ...

Hello Gardenweb. I am looking for a vendor, which has available Michelia champaca in a container smaller than 1 gallon. I am also looking for a vendor, who has for sale Tabernaemontana hostii in a smaller container as well. I.C.