When I looked up EdL, I was reminded that this is the rose which was mis-identified in Bermuda as Anna Olivier, which now has the name "Bermuda Anna Olivier". Thank you so much for stressing that it is always yellow. When I went to HMF to look at pictures of it, I realized that, probably because of the study name, some of the pictures of it on HMF are actually the real Anna Olivier. I think the problem of the confusion of rose names will always be with us...

Anyway, there are some good pictures of entire bushes of the true EdL on HMF - I am glad you have pointed out how gorgeous it is. I am so glad I can grow teas. I have to restrain my self from ordering each one I hear about. Barely prevented myself from ordering EdL because of your description, but I did finally do that. I have more sun in my front garden now, but I also have bushes of Dawson's Apple Blossom (rambler) and Leys Perpetual (climbing tea or tea/noisette) in large pots waiting to be planted out there. We are going to build a trellis/arbor around/over/above the 5 ft high 4 ft wide stump of our recently taken down oak tree for them to grow on. Leys Perpetual is also yellow.

I may be able to add more roses later, but I want to wait until next year to see what the dozen tea &china roses I already have in that area do with so much more sun (because of the tree, they were in mostly shade from June through Oct each year, although they managed to bloom happily from Jan through May). I suspect they will, after they recover from the shock, get bigger.

Jackie

Melissa, that's great to hear. I planted one in Spring, and love the colour and shapeliness of the flowers. And they glow in early morning light. Of course, mine is still only about 3' high, but it has already managed a few flushes, despite being in rather more shade than I'd like.

Someone who posts on here, said it was hands down, the best rose in her garden, for loveliness of the shrub as well as the flower, as it's clothed right down to the ground. Someone else said it was one of the few roses she had to pluck the dead flowers off, and I have found that's true for me too. But that's a small price to pay for something so lovely.

Trish

Just found the poster who loves it, it's catspa. I don't know how to do links, but the post is 'Etoile de Lyon', whole plant pics'. Well worth a look.

Trish where did you buy 'Etoile' from please.

David, I got it from Mistydowns.

In fact I bought this rose under the name of 'Anna Olivier' and gradually figured out what it actually was. I think it's Peter Beales in one of his books who mentioned there was a beautiful imposter in commerce as AO, and then heard of "Bermuda's Anna Olivier".

Our surface world has dried to a crisp, though there's still water down where deeprooted plants like roses can get to it. Several of the Teas and Noisettes have been blooming, but while 'Safrano' and 'Mme. Antoine Mari' have been putting forth corymbs of little flowers--they look rather like Polyanthas in this guise--'Etoile de Lyon's blooms are large and substantial. What a rose.

Looks promising for Ingrid!

I take note of this, bart, but, first, am not home at the moment, and, two, am extremely reluctant to purchase ANYTHING that has to come to me through Italian Mail package delivery, that is, SDA. They are horrible.

I hope you're doing well, by the way, at least facing your surgery with comfortable fortitude, if it hasn't already taken place. I've been traveling lately and am out of touch, but am reviving this oldish thread to answer you and say hello.

Great to hear from you, Melissa, an I hope you're having a wonderful trip. Eventually I could have the package sent to me (our couriers are pretty good really; only disaster I remember was an order from a Dutch nursery, but that was mainly the fault of the extermely superficial,negligent attitude of the nursery). But I don't mean to pressure you in any way!!! I'm "just saying", lol!

From what I understand, now traditional surgery for my lungs has been excluded as an option; I've been doing a second round of chemotherapy, and then they will re-evaluate the situation. As awful as this therapy is, I am feeling much, much better spiritually, and am delighted to now have scheduled the first preliminary appointment that will take me down the path to getting my hip replaced (I think the idea will be to do this in September). Of course, objectively speaking the idea of surgery is horrible, but my hip situation is just so bad now that I can't help but happily look forward to a return of health and strength.Thank you so much for your thoughts and good wishes, dearie!

Continue to keep your spirits up, bart, and stay comfortable. I'm having a wonderful time in Florida, but will be glad to get back home when my vacation comes to an end.