These are both exceptional roses. They both have some shade tolerance, so four hours of sun might be fine. In the book "The English Roses", Mr. Austin speaks highly about both. He considers Golden Celebration, perhaps his finest rose. But if they are going in a container, yes Jubilee is the one for you. I am so surprised that in California it is staying so compact. Usually an Austin rose becomes mega here. By the way that fragrance on JC is so lemony and fresh.

Hi dinajean - It is called "cracking" and is the result of inconsistent moisture levels. Sometimes it is weather - heavy rains followed by long dry periods or sometimes results from inconsistent watering practices. Some varieties are more prone to it than others. Either way the fruit swells with water, cracks the skin, then shrinks back and the crack scars over. You can eliminate that not caused by the weather with consistent, deep watering practices and using heavy mulching to retain soil moisture. They don't look especially pretty but they are quite edible. The link below will take you to several other recent discussions on the problem with more info. Good luck. ;) Dave Here is a link that might be useful: Cracking tomatoes

Oh PM, that is the most beautiful cabinet from windows! And it would fit my style so well! TFS! I'll show DH but I know what he'll say & I know that I'm thinking the same thing, too...WHERE WOULD YOU PUT IT??? (LOL!) I've used up all my space (& more) so I would have to get rid of something...& it wouldn't fit in DR or LR ...so probably the porch area (& I already have the corner door cabinet, Hoosier cabinet & hanging wall shelf out there! ;-) Thanks for that idea! ;-) I don't know if my DH would trade places for awhile...but I know your Mr. O would hate it here in Winter...the golf courses just opened ...tho they are soggy & cold! punk ...I don't know much about the shuttle loom or weaving...but I saw this at one of my fave consignment shops & it was $10 ...I knew the middle was called a bobbin cause I have some of those w/threads on them in a basket. First of all, I told myself I didn't need it...& then a few wks later I went bk & it was still there & 30% off (or something like that)...so I knew I needed it! :-0 Sounds like jane did some of this art, so hopefully she'll share some expertise on this pc! Thanks, Holiday-ers for your comments! Jeanne S. punk...I found this pic on Photobucket...

Even in this central Virginia Upper South garden, Golden Celebration reaches 8'+ tall and would arch over to cover a circle 15' or more if not confined within a copper pipe obelisk. That structure is 2' square with staggered cross bars & 4 corner verticals that curve near the top to join together in a wooden ball finial, rising more than 9' from ground level. After 8 years, my grafted rose has outgrown it & I'll be adding another 2 feet of vertical pipe to accomodate it. GC is planted in the center of the obelisk, which was assembled around it when it began shooting long arching canes in its second year. It grows in the center of a long & deep front porch bed, and would have swamped neighboring plants if not coralled in some manner. Since it's not tied to the support & grows naturally in an arching vase shape, canes & laterals spill over the crossbars giving a total diameter of 4' starting 3' from the ground & widening as it keeps going up. The nearest rose in front of it is a 3x3' round floribunda planted 3' out from the obelisk, so around 5' center to center of each bush. A taller hybrid tea is 5' behind the obelisk. Two more shortish & willowly climbers at either side by 6' lean slightly on the same obelisk. This arrangement allows me room to walk within the bed to tend the roses & other perennials & so far (knock on wood) they've all done well. If this sounds odd, it's more or less an island bed, since it's seen from all vantage points, and GC is the tallest element. Tend to plant with mature size in mind for spacing, rather than crowd, in this humid climate with high blackspot pressure where air circulation is important as a deterrent, but that's me & my no-spray ways. All this is a longwinded way of saying since Golden Celebration grows so well here in the Upper South, I'd expect greater & lusher growth in your Deep South garden with your considerably longer growing season, higher temps & greater sun intensity year round. So I'll echo others' recommendations that you space CG 6' at minimum from other large roses, consider your best guess maximum mature dimensions of any other rose you're thinking of including in the same bed & adjust your plans accordingly... Very nice roses you've chosen! Give them room to thrive.