Going to a Sub-Zero/Wolf Cooking Demonstration
Cheryl Hewitt
7 years ago
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Are Wolf and SubZero worth the price?
Comments (10)Having moved frequently I have had KA, Miele, sub zeroes , may tag and GE refrigerators. The present home's built in was a subzero that failed after 15 years. Shopping around I bought a subzero for just under 9 thousand this past summer. The prices were 8700 with free delivery, 9700 plus a 250 delivery charge, and another store was charging 9700 with free delivery. I had assumed that all stores were selling the unit at the same cost. Husband was pissed that I had to spend so much. I had looked at monogram and LG units along with a few other refrigerator but either I did not like the shelves or the replacement fridge would not fit in the refrigerator cabinet. Back in 2000 I had to replace another failed subzero that was 16 years old. The price at this time was 3 grand. I was stunned to see the six thousand inflation price. I owned a small Miele with a single door and under freezer. The unit was only five feet high but held a nice assortment of groceries while keeping the food fresh for days. This small Miele held more groceries than a side by side GE refrig I had when living in Atlanta. Bigger does not mean better! Having had side by sides and the single door panel I prefer the Miele and the subzero. What makes the difference is shelving space. The subzero is designed to hold a huge amount of food so I can pack a turkey along with all the holiday prep in the subzero whereas with the side by side I had to use the garage shelving as my back up refrig. I live in the northeast so temps are below freezing by November . A few times I had to scramble placing the garage store good in coolers when the temperatures hit fifty. There are many spacious refrigerators out there that are lower in cost than a sub zero but I found that it was only a two grand price difference . I could have bought a less expensive fridge but it would have sat bizarre in the kitchen cabinet. I love my subzero but there are other great options on the market that function just as well. I strongly believe that the single or french door refrigs give you the best use of space and having the freezer below is also an easy stock option. I trimmed by monthly expenses for a few weeks to negate my subzero just to calm the hubby down. Think of buying your fridge with how you will use it and what you can afford. Good luck...See MorePackages: Wolf/Sub-Zero vs Thermador vs Jenn-Air
Comments (7)Who are you buying them from? If it's a large independent dealer, you should be able to do just as well getting the appliances you want rather than the "packages" which are designed by the makers to make you think you have to stick with them so make them more money. Most appliance stores have a discount for contractors and interior designers. Usually the same percentage (10-20% depending on local custom, usually more in the 10-15% range). Sometimes, there will be more for one or the other group because of connections, volume, promotion, whim etc. Since you're doing a major remodel and looking at mid- to high- end appliances, I'm thinking you have at least a general contractor, or maybe a plumber/gc. Even if you don't, since you're buying a whole suite of appliances, the store may give you the contractor's discount anyway. If that isn't possible, you still have negotiating room. While the store may be locked into fairly narrow contracted price floors (as if they were selling fine art!), they have other ways they can give you discounts. They can give you a free dishwasher, for instance (a common occurrence), and/or free delivery and/or installation. They may also pay for an extended warranty, though those aren't worth nearly as much, dollar for dollar, as something tangible. They're more for emotional support. So, given that, I'd choose SZ/Wolf or Thermador. Thermador may cost less (depending on exchange) and it's fine. Wolf has great ovens, but there are a few potential problems (I think the jury is still out on whether they've 100% beaten an issue with the enamel). I prefer the layout of the SubZero refrigerators. If you're getting gas, I love the Wolf double stacked burners. I prefer Thermador's dishwasher to the Asko, which is what I think you get with SZ/W. That's without even considering Miele, Liebherr, BlueStar ranges, etc....See MoreWolf or Thermador double ovens and cooktop with Sub Zero Fridge???
Comments (5)A couple of years ago Miele changed their realationship with their dealers and brought customer service pretty much “in house”. Many dealers who used to carry Miele no longer cause I got the impression they may have cut the dealers profit margins but honestly do not know.- that was never mentioned explicitly. On the Miele website you can enter your zip code and see if there are dealers in your area. The biggest issue is you need to make sure is if they service your area. Their customer service is excellent. Miele has two sizes of combi steam - both larger than Thermador. The smaller one (XL) is about the same size of the Wolf (1.7/1.8 cu ft) and the larger one (XXL) recently introduced in the US is quite a bit larger so you have options there. You don’t have to re-learn how to cook with the Miele combi steam. You still have all your regular oven functions including broil plus you have the combine steam/oven mode and steam mode. I think of it as expanding my cooking toolset. it is awesome for re-heating leftovers and for cooking many items from scratch where the steam addition truly benefit. Of course you can steam veggies/hard boil eggs/poach fish/etc. I looked into it initially for baking sour dough and then discovered its versatility. The only pans I have that don’t fit are half sheet and my WIlliams Sonoma cookie sheets. They handle 9X13s easily....See MoreSub Zero / Wolf Appliances poor quality and terrible customer service
Comments (3)I consider myself warned and appreciate your post, even though it’s too late for us now. We ordered our appliances a year ago and just got them delivered/installed last month. I love the induction cooktop, haven’t used the oven enough to have an opinion yet. Our Designer fridge/freezer combo has been having some issues and I am now concerned. The freezer Motor or fan was making very loud noise. It would only stop when we opened either of the freezer drawers. It did that for an hour or so and then stopped all together. Also, we noticed a weird smell in the fridge. But I’m not sure if it was there before we started using it and since Sub Zero recommend washing the fridge inside before use, which I don’t think we did, I’ll try that first. All in all, I’m not super impressed, and your post only confirms that....See MoreCheryl Hewitt
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