Thomas Affleck
I think Thomas Affleck likes his final new home...Planted TA in May of 2014... Moved him to another location April of 2015 then moved him again later part of 2015... Moving him so much has not slowed this guy down much... Nice growth and lots of Spring buds this year...
Thread I started in 2014 on TA...
http://forums2.gardenweb.com/discussions/1652600/thomas-affleck
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suncoastflowers
7 years agojim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
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Thomas Affleck - What a rose!
Comments (13)'Thomas Affleck' is an awesome rose. You were very smart to pick this one up. Even though I live all the way up in zone 4/New Hampshire, this Texas Pioneer Rose thrives. Mine is about 5 years old now and stays around 5 feet tall, which by zone 4 standards is a good-sized rose....but he is very elegantly shaped and almost always covered in beautiful blooms. The leaves are never touched by diseases and I don't spray. The color is very bright and looks wonderful against the dark green, healthy foliage. Mine even sets hips in the fall. In the 5 years I've had the pleasure of knowing 'him', TA has never had one speck of blackspot and even blooms in a semi-shaded position. I grow 3 of the Texas Pioneer roses and love them all, but Thomas is my first and favorite. (Also grow 'Coles Settlement' and 'Star of the Republic'). I am amazed that these 3 roses are among my hardiest. It seems ironic that roses that originated in Texas and bearing Texas names would survive zone 4 winters as well as the Explorer roses and better than the Bucks! All 3 of them are hardy to the tips here. (In case any other cold-zoners are reading this.) I bought roses for my son and DIL's house and even planted them for them. I am bound and determined that one of my offspring are going to become rose-addicts along with me! LOL. Celeste The handsome 'Thomas Affleck'.........See MoreDecided to prune today...
Comments (58)Hi msdorkgirl: I love your username !! I'm a dork myself, like wearing pajamas in my garden. Yes, it's Francis Meilland with tons of buds in a big-pot at Menards store. I would had bought it, except I got tons of pink-roses already. What type of soil do you have in Hawaii? Roses are water-hog & nutrients-freak and they do best in nutrient-rich soil. Plus they bloom best if the water is slight acidic, like rain water at pH 6 in my Chicagoland. Rain water is more acidic at the east coast, at pH 5.6. If you use tap-water to water your roses, they won't bloom well since tap-water is treated with calcium hydroxide, which raise the pH and make nutrients less available. My tap water pH is 8.6, and roses don't bloom with that. I have to lower the pH with sulfate of potash (26% sulfur), or soluble gypsum (17% sulfur). Now I use a rain-barrel to collect water, and my roses bloom lots more. Francis Meilland is a Romantica (French roses). French roses are water-hogs and bloom best if OWN-ROOT, rather than grafted on Dr. Huey rootstock. My Frederic Mistral (French rose) used to be stingy for 2 years , then on the 3rd year, I put sulfate of potash in my tap-water, and it gave me 40 buds for spring flush. Roses won't bloom if there isn't enough potassium or phosphorus in the soil. So 3 things that prevent roses from blooming: Wrong pH: either soil or tap water too alkaline (pH above 8), or too acidic (below 5). Not enough potassium or phosphorus in the soil. My own-root Comte de Chambord is 8 inches tall, 1 foot wide ... really tiny rose, but it has 7 buds. I put grind-up sunflower seed in the planting hole, plus alfalfa pellets. My 2nd Comte de Chambord is much bigger, but only 4 buds ... I put only alfalfa pellets. My 3rd Comte de Chambord is GRAFTED, and it's tiny, only 2 buds. All 3 get some chicken manure on top. Too high nitrogen in fertilizer. I once put blood meal on my marigolds, and they shot up to 3 feet tall, zero blooms for the entire year. I did that to my roses too, using NPK 10-5-4 (too high nitrogen), and they didn't bloom for 3 months !! Lesson well learned, I stick to LOW-NITROGEN, like alfalfa pellets at NPK 2-1-2 (equal ratio of nitrogen to potassium). Good luck....See MoreNabonnand or Thomas Affleck?
Comments (2)The Thomas Affleck I got from ARE is near thornless... It does have some thorns... Fragrance? My smeller is bad so I have no idea......See MoreThomas Affleck:
Comments (6)Oh, my , Thomas is looking fine and lush, Jim! Kate...See Morejim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
7 years agolast modified: 7 years agoThomas Affleck starting to bloom again... TA is still actually setting roots since I moved him twice in 2015. TA is still getting taller & wider at this point. Still hanging on to most of its foilage in spite of some Anthracnose disease. So all in all TA still looks real good here in Sept.!
Patty W. zone 5a Illinois
7 years ago
rosecanadian
7 years agoPatty W. zone 5a Illinois
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7 years agojim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
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blank_generation
7 years agojim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
7 years agolast modified: 7 years agoblank_generation, bloom starts out dark pink on the reddish side then lightens alittle to a different shade of pink. I am awful at describing colors...lol
Our TA bush is still growing... Others in colder climates have had TA grow to 5'ft high x 3+' ft so not exactly small in size...
jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
7 years agolast modified: 7 years agoSnapped this pic today...Enjoy your day everyone!
Prairie Harvest (front)...
Lisa Adams
7 years agoblank_generation
7 years agojim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
7 years agolast modified: 7 years agoColder weather setting in here so once those blooms are gone that's probably it until next year so your saved blank_generation...lol..
THIS IS SOMEONE ELSE's PIC of TA but I want this to happen here someday....lol... TA is cane hardy (winter) to the tips here so I lose little to no plant height so maybe its possible someday...lol
rosecanadian
7 years agojim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
7 years agoThomas Affleck producing some darker blooms and they are staying darker much longer at this time of year...
jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
7 years agoThomas Affleck winding down for the season... TA lost some leaves to Anthracnose and alittle blackspot but overall the bush still looks good here in October...:-)
rosecanadian
7 years agojim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
7 years agolast modified: 7 years agoPut the finishing touches on Thomas Affleck and our other roses today... Applied some homemade yard waste compost ...Will apply more in the Spring...We got our first frost last night...
blank_generation
7 years agojim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
7 years agolast modified: 7 years agoHere is Thomas Affleck Nov 1st... He did drop about 25%- 30% of his leaves throughout the second half of October but not a biggie to me since he did fairly well the other months of the season...( Mostly had Anthracnose disease with some BS...)
(Here is how some of our other Roses compare this year: No Spray)
Easy Does it - 100% leaf drop from BS in Aug-Sept...
Julia Child- 10%-20% leaf drop from BS up to this point in time...
Double Ko's- 0%-1% leaf drop up to this point...
Carefree Celebration- 0%-1% leaf drop up to this point...
Miracle on the Hudson- 0%-1% leaf drop """""""""""""""""""
Fiji - 0% - 1% leaf drop """""""""""""""""""
Thomas Affleck: Nov 1st
jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
7 years agolast modified: 7 years agoThomas Affleck made it through the winter with no dieback...But I did prune TA back a bit anyhow to see how he responds. Also pruned out twiggy growth...TA has a nice rounder appearance at this point...
TA is starting to load up with flower buds at this point in time...
rosecanadian
7 years agoPatty W. zone 5a Illinois
7 years agojim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
6 years agoThomas Affleck 2017:
The first 4 blooms were deformed...Weather related & some thrip damage...
The bush is close to 3ft by 3ft at this point in time...
Ok took these today: First good bloom...:-) lol
Patty W. zone 5a Illinois
6 years agojim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
6 years agolast modified: 6 years agoWe finally got some actual sunlight today as in no clouds or rain....:-) So blooms are opening....
hugogurll
6 years agojim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
6 years agojim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
6 years agolast modified: 6 years agoWith the attack of Rose Midge & Thrips this year I have not been able to post many pics of TA...Other rose bushes effected too...
But I will post this bush shot I just took to show otherwise TA is doing fine...
rosecanadian
6 years agoLisa Adams
6 years agojim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
6 years agoPatty W. zone 5a Illinois
6 years agojim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
6 years agoenchantedrosez5bma
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Dingo2001 - Z5 Chicagoland
6 years agoPatty W. zone 5a Illinois
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Jasminerose, California, USDA 9b/Sunset 18
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6 years agojim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
6 years agolast modified: 6 years agoJasminerose, California, USDA 9b/Sunset 18
6 years agoThe sequel, "Jim's revenge"
Sorry if the joking is too soon. I really am sorry about your TA rose.
jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
6 years agolast modified: 6 years agoLOL @ Bonnie! That will be me soon...lol
I soaked this little Fiji rose in a bucket of water for awhile then planted it in TA former location... Little Fiji has not grown much nor bloomed because of rose Midge this year...Hopefully Fiji grows in this locale as well as TA did...
Jasminerose, California, USDA 9b/Sunset 18
6 years agojim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
6 years agoJasminerose, California, USDA 9b/Sunset 18
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