Webkat5, That red one I'm pretty sure, is a Cryptbergia 'Rubra'. Sometimes called C.'Red'. Its a hybrid cross of a cryptanthus and a billbergia,and has the traits of both plants. When flowering,has compact grouped greenish brachts with white flowers,and pups very well. Easy to care for too. Goes green in low light,dark red in bright light. I've had it in my collection for many years,as it keeps on going,just like the Energizer Bunny. Bob

its not allegan fog.... but allegan fog is a SELECTION from one of the undulatas .... could the first one just be a hyper-fertilized undulata.. and i cant remember which ... when you get/move tall hosta.. try the taping method ... the tape will hold up the leaves until the roots start pumping water.. in a week or 2 the tape will fall off or can be removed ... here's a picture: i don't know what the other one is.. ken

Hey, I just learned a couple new English common names. I'd call that a happy mistake. I do make it a point to use the Latin names in all my comments now.That's so people get more familiar with the scientific name, because it's the right thing to do,and because I want to stay on your good side. I like going back and forth between Latin and common names because I think it's fun to do and I feel more human and less like a computer.No more rambling mints please or this will be a cluster you know what.

I just looked up Erigeron and it sure does look like it . In particular it looks like Erigeron glaucus 'Sea Breeze but these are growing wild in my garden I never planted them !!!! could they have arrived in from bird droppings? Thanks floral_uk Hi Perenn.all no worries , busy here too ! Hope to talk to you soon