over winter??? or do you want them to continue growing???? all the multi-hundred dollar setups aside.. all you need is two 2 light shop lights.. fluorescent ... and a way to hang them.. so the lights are adjustable to height .... which means some teacup hooks and hardware chain .... when i built mine.. i went to english gardens.. and bought only the trays for the 500 dollar setup ... for REAL CHEAP .. and then used 2 x 4's to build the structure.. i know its way more than you need.. but there are pics below ... and you dont need any special lamps ... just 4 4 foot lights.. replaced each season ... and a simple timer for about 16 hours on.. 8 off .... with one on/off cycle in the middle of the off period ... ken the lights have to be about 2 inches from the plants.. and adjusted all winter long .... like pic below .... and that is a good reason.. they should all be in uniform pots ... in march or so.. you can also start seeds.. like impatiens ... etc ...

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Okay, here are my thoughts so far: This Erlwhatsis LED panel is a 45-watt fixture that provides about 20k lux of plant-yummy light at a distance of about 4 inches. This drops rapidly to 8k to 10k lux at a distance of about 10 inches from the panel. Light intensity also declines the farther the plant is from the center of the array. I have two 12-watt TaoTronics bulbs on either side of the panel and they throw out 40k lux but they have a circular array of LEDs so that's actually only a light point of about 2 to 3 inches in diameter, declining rapidly outside the focal point. Basically you can put one plant in the middle and anything around that one plant will be poorly-lit. Just to put in context, direct sunlight is over 100k lux, increasing in intensity as you get closer to the, er, sun, measured in astronomical units of 150 million kilometers. To improve light distribution, I am planning to attach white panels on the sides of this shelf. Above this setup is my other plant shelf, under T5HOs. Now, if you want to keep your plants growing throughout winter, a 45-watt panel is not going to be enough light to keep your plant compact, especially if you are planning to heat the area up to summer temperatures and keep feeding them. This will work for me because I do not plan to keep them heated in the basement, nor to feed them. IME, this slows them down to the point of semi-dormancy. Basically, this is winter shutdown for some of my adeniums. That said, LED grow lights generate wavelengths very specific for plant growth. That part, I have to monitor this winter since it will be very different from plants just scavenging usable wavelength from daylight T5HOs. In my home office, though, that's a different story. That stays tropical all throughout winter. I hope this helps someone! Pagan

I would like to get a high amount of light to my indoor hoya plant for blooms. There is so much information on lights out there and I just want to know what would work.