Tried that to no avail. I have a picture of it but I guess I can't post a picture from my iPad so I'll post it tomorrow from my laptop. Thanks, though!

"None of us are completely no till. If you plant seeds you need to till soil to get them into the soil. If you plant seedlings you need to till the soil to get them in. If you pull a "weed" out by the roots you till that soil. Tilling means disturbing the soil whether by a trowel, hand cultivator, garden fork, garden spade, hoe, shovel, rototiller, or mouldboard plow." Finally we have you on record, Kimm, despite your refusal to respond to this very point made in your various "no-till" threads in the past. IOW, there is no such thing as no till. One wonders why you refused to acknowledge this obvious fact before, but oh well. Alison, the super-shallow assiduous cultivation that you are describing is best case scenario. Few gardeners are able to do it. Even in my home garden I don't stay on top of things quite to that extent. Though since I have much the same soil conditions that TX describes from MI, the weed problem is not severe. A four-foot tall dock can often be pulled by hand. Yesterday I was hilling potatoes in my remote garden a bit belatedly. Overwintered weeds are thick and high between the rows, I have to pull them before I can hill. I drilled the potatoes in rows rather than plowing the whole patch precisely to lessen impact on soil life and to conserve moisture which is a concern with the very light soil. The flip side is the problem later with well-established weeds which have said thank you very much. It's no big deal with a small garden but with four hundred-foot rows of potatoes I think next year I'll just have to let the soil be exposed.

There was a thread on this forum a few months back, I think, after reading it I bought one at a local nursery. When I walked in and asked for a scuffle hoe, they didn't know what I was talking about. Apparently they call it a stirrup hoe. Anyway, it's great for weeding small weeds really quickly and easily. It gets hung up on mature weeds though so those you have to pull.

I absolutely love both of these tools! The Hula Hoe is great for getting rid of the weeds in my previously well mulched large perennial beds. I actually pulled all of the landscape fabric out from under the mulch because weeds would start in the mulch and grow through the fabric and into the soil, making it really hard to remove them. Now I just go through the beds every week or so with the hula hoe, and it cuts off the weeds and mixes them into the garden soil where they die. It has cut my weeding time by about 75%! I would not have as many flower beds if I didn't have this tool and the Circle Hoe that is my other favorite tool! I don't put in edging around my flower beds, I use the Circle Hoe to cut through whatever grass is trying to mess up my clean edges every couple of weeks.This tool is so amazing!! I spend about fifteen minutes going around the beds and leave the sliced out grass and soil in the grass where I then mow over it and it's gone! I'm not kidding. That's all there is to it. Between the two of these tools, and probably my arrowhead shaped hoe, weeding is no big deal anymore. Now I can concentrate on how much I hate creeping charlie and spend my time raking that stuff out of my lawn. Does anybody have a magic tool that will get rid of this stuff?