I wanted to get a 3 year owari satsuma from them but they were out stock so I ordered from Nauture Hills. When it arrived two days ago I was surprised to see a Four Winds tag on it!

Yes, from what I understand from soaking to the Narure Hills rep, their citrus are from Four Winds. They get their more mature trees from Four Winds and resell them. I wonder why this is more profitable for FW? Vladimir, how's your new tree? Please post a pic! I'm interested to see how it works out for you.

Laura, I will take pics of it and the ponderosas tomorrow (too dark now) and post them then.

Its more profitable because four winds sells in bulk and it's a gaurenteed source of money. They can propagate what they need and so many extras that they wouldn't be able to sell. Don't forget they supply retail in California too.

Its spring, I'm sure they are selling like crazy right now. Back in December I emailed about more lemonades and valentines and they said everything should be back in stock in May. (This month)

i emailed them again last month and they said the same. They have vanilla blood in stock which they didn't and last year Kerry told me they were never going to have again. I guess they changed their mind. She said they didn't move quickly.

It's possible they would rather sell them wholesale right now to keep their large buyers happy. They might make more selling mail order to us but that's 1-10 at a time vs thousands to big box store warehouses.

if you want to know how many of a variety they have just keep adding it to the cart until it says something like "out of stock do you want us to email you when it becomes available" I do it all the time to see if I need to spend my last few dollars now before they run out or if I think they will still have it when I get paid. For example right this moment they have 57 vanilla bloods available.

Wow a vanilla blood orange I just read the description sounds awesome! I have never heard of that one before.

Pip do you pay attention to which types are good for container culture or do you just go for it? I've just been going for it.

Every single citrus they sell is good for containers. They specifically choose rootstock for that purpose. My vanilla blood is doing decent. It lost a lot of leaves but it spent over a year indoors and just went outside so that's expected. I very much dislike how high it was grafted but besides that it's a quality tree. Keep in mind it's very sweet with almost no acid. Some like that, others don't.

on and they screwed me on the fancy tag. I got a bs regular nursery tag. I'm pretty bitter about that because that's the only reason I buy from them.

That's a good point, I'm not lucky enough to get a choice of rootstocks up here for the most part. Get them to mail you a tag, I am sure they wouldn't mind.

Oh did you get an outside area now? Congrats!

I just read that they do well in containers but I would guess they probably need heat to develop sweetness, which I probably do not have enough of in MA.

Well if you take them indoors where it's 70 all winter the heat shouldn't be an issue. In fact im more worried about providing the cold needed for my bloods indoors than the heat.

Yes, I noticed 4 Winds was out of a lot of trees too. Harris is carrying plants in 5 gallon pots now and also trees on dwarf rootstock. Just ordered a Dekopon and a dwarf Valencia.

Cory

Are you by chance looking at the bare root trees?

it is too late to plant anyway, that's why they say they are out of stock.

Not true. Bare roots are sold by them year round for container plants. I have bought this time of year before and a few bare roots are still available.