Help! Attack of the spicebush swallowtail caterpillars
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Comments (23)Rue thrives best on benign neglect. I rarely water it and never fertilize mine either. Treat it as a typical Mediterranean herb. except that in my zone, it prefers some shade. It should grow just fine in Florida. Maybe it needs more of a shady location, with excellent drainage, as most herbs require. Rue does need to be watered until it is established, and then very little once it is. I consider it a short-lived perennial. After 4 or 5 years, it will probably need to be replaced. Some say it self-sows for them, but for me, it never has. It does, however, root readily in water. I have cut stems to put in my caterpillar containers, and it has rooted, despite the foliage being eaten to the bones. Some people also have problems with contact dermatitis from handling the foliage and exposure to sunlight which then triggers the dermatitis. I am not allergic to it, but use caution just in case you are. I find Rue in the local nurseries that have a large Herb section, for a couple bucks a plant, so it's not expensive. That means it's easy to propagate and grows quickly, contrary to herbs like Bay Laurel that grow so slowly and can be difficult to propagate, hence they are much more expensive plants. Susan...See MoreSomething new going after my Spicebush Swallowtail cats
Comments (9)We did our local July 4th NABA Butterfly count yesterday. I helped my friend Amy at Redbud Valley, one of our local nature areas. Amy is a naturalist, employed by the city of Tulsa. She works at Oxley Nature Center and Redbud Valley. Everyone wanted to do Oxley, as there is lots of nectar available right now, so it was just the two of us. Anyway, part of the hike goes through an area of Spicebush, so we checked out the plants. There was lots of evidence of predation. We found two small live caterpillars, one in a leaf roll with a mass of eggs on the underside. The eggs were so small, they could only be seen with a magnifying glass. Amy sent the two live cats home with me to raise. I'll return them to the area when they eclose. I removed the leaf with the eggs on it, and moved the cats to a small potted Spicebush. The temps here were 104 in the afternoon. We were exhausted and extremely sweaty after our 4 hour up and down hike. Not much nectar available, and not many bugs out--just 19 species. But we did get to add Spicebush to our count. Sandy...See MoreSpicebush Swallowtails
Comments (55)I'll add a story from yesterday's volunteer naturalist training that I am doing at the local nature center. Our teacher/leader "D" took us out on one of the trails and we caught sight of a butterfly caught in a spider web. So D released it from the web and brought it back for us to examine. She asked us if we could ID it. She turned it over noting the white spots in the cells on the ventral forewing and told us it was a female Black Swallowtail. I chimed in and said as gently as possible, "I think it's a Spicebush Swallowtail male." I showed her and the group the aqua coloring and the spots on the wing margin that were also aqua colored. I explained that the females have blue coloring with the wing margin spots colored blue. D and I are doing a Skipper workshop together on Saturdays in preparation for our next NABA BF count on the 30th, and are good friends. She turned to me and said, "It's a good thing I'm not teaching a Swallowtail workshop!" BTW, she's good at IDing the skippers! Also, I found Spicebush caterpillars and showed the group, and Pipevine caterpillars. When D was doing closure, she asked for the favorite thing from the hike, the two guys both thought seeing the caterpillars was best! Think I'll enjoy my new "job". I just have to learn to ID scat, smells, leaves, plants, animal tracks, critters in pond scum, etc. D has me down on the mat for the count when it comes to those things. But then she's the paid trained naturalist. Sandy...See MoreI need help with raising SpiceBush Swallowtails!
Comments (3)Is there a butterfly in Britain called a spicebush swallowtail or are you talking about the American spicebush swallowtail/Papilio troilus? If you're raising American spicebush swallowtails, where did you get the eggs? As far as I know, although sweetbay/Magnolia virginiana is sometimes said to be a host for spicebush swallowtails, they only thrive on members of the laurel family, like spicebush, sassafras, redbay, etc. If you use sweetbay and they thrive, that would be interesting, because a lot of sweetbay grows on my property, but I've never found a spicebush swallowtail caterpillar on any - the only caterpillar I've found on sweetbay was a tiger swallowtail, and that was just once. Sherry...See MoreMissSherry
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