No. But I heard that it was a very good day in all ways.

I would have loved to have been there myself, to show my support. I'm hoping it truly was a good day...

I was there. It was well attended, and of course the garden was glorious. I am not confident, but I am hopeful that our message is getting through.

Thanks, Rosefolly. That eases my mind somewhat.

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Thanks for the update, Anita. We're all rooting for you and the garden.

John

Anita - in my town (San Rafael), decisions of city staff and/or public commissions can be appealed to the CIty Council, who have in the past overturned certain things. Is that road available in Sacramento? Here an appeal requires a filing fee of some sort, but on controversial issues folks have been able to raise that money easily. Unless the City Manager is elected in Sac, it seems as if the elected City Council and Mayor should have some actual power in this area, eventually.

Jackie

Basically, that's what we are doing - I'm not aware of a formal appeal process for City staff decisions such as we are dealing with, but letting the Council know how we feel can make a difference.

If worst came to worst, I would be happy to contribute to a fund to file an appeal.

Count me in, too. If there's an option to appeal, let us know.

I would too. Do they have neighborhood associations in Sac? The reason I ask is that where I live we do, and some of them have people who have been dealing with the city for decades, and know all of the ins & outs of the formal appeal process, among other things. The City Atourney's office might be another source of info.

Jackie

Claire 8WA

I spoke with my daughter about this, she is a MA in civic
admin. and middle management in a SF Bay area city, so understands how these things work.

She tells me that there should be an appeal process in place
if the Historic Commission finds against retaining the roses, and the clerk of
that commission can give an explanation of the process including who the
commission reports to, what fees are associated with an appeal, and how to file
such appeal. Now, about the fees, it
seems that in some cities, if an elected council person ‘sponsors’ an appeal,
the fees can be waived, worth asking about.

So things to find out:

Who does the historic committee report too?

If findings are contrary to our wishes how do we call for
review? Can we interest a city counsel
member in doing this? Are there costs
associated with such a review?

A call to the clerk of the commission asking for an
explanation of the process is in order.

I understand that there is a point person appointed to
co-ordinate the "retain roses" effort, wonder if that person is on this forum?

Hoping to help

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Think that I'm the point person. Thanks for the info.

Claire8WA

Anita,

I have quite a few other pieces of info/ideas that she shared with me., if you like send me a pm and I will get the notes to you. My e-mail is locallambATgmail.com, replace AT with @, you know the drill.

best

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