I'm sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I just inherited this rose from a friend and am looking for a good place to plant it. It has been planted in her garden for several years now, but in a position with poor soil (sandy) and a lot of shade. So much shade that is has never bloomed. It is healthy enough, but the canes are thin and only about 3 ft tall. I'd like to put it in a place where it gets some shade but not too much, and a place where I can enjoy the fragrance. I have a prominent spot in mind but ... Descriptions of this rose online say that it gets to be about 3 ft wide, and maybe 8-10 tall. Would you say this is accurate? I can grow it as a small climber against a Gazebo so I would prefer it to go up rather than out :) Will it only bloom at the tips this way, or will it bloom all the way up the cane? Can I allow it to grow straight up, or should I try to train the canes along the gazebo horizontally to encourage more flowering along the length? Some roses seem to need this treatment considerably more than others. Also, the colour is always difficult to tell online. It would be planted next to (very close to) a Clematis "Niobe" which is a beautiful dark red. I know there wouldn't be much contrast in colours but I thought the Clematis could fill in some of the bloom when the rose isn't blooming? Do you think that would work? Is the growth habit of the rose very dense, or is it spacious enough to allow a clematis to grow amongst it? Do you think the two colour would go well together, or would they clash? I can't tell the true colour of Souv Du Dr Jamain in internet photos ... I don't want the two "reds" to clash and look awful together. Any advice would be appreciated! I have to get this rose into the ground fairly soon so if this spot won't work, I'll have to try to find another.

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Thank you for your reply, however I've already contacted Reliable Roses and sadly they only have breeding stock at the moment and won't have any of these roses for sale until NEXT year.