help on radiant heat price new build!
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Comments (3)If you were looking for a quick heating response probably Warm Boards would be the way to go. Speak with installers that have experience in your climate. Are you planning to install A/C, a heated pool or hot tub? A single multi-purpose geothermal unit can have many uses transferring heat energy from one place where it's not needed to another where it is at almost twice the efficiency of single a purpose geothermal unit. Geothermal is used in all climates, you could look into it, or not. SR...See MoreHelp on radiant heat price?
Comments (14)A forced-air system, just like a radiant floor heating system, should be sized and probably designed by a professional third party other than the hvac contractor. With 2012 or current levels of energy code for the building envelope, you may not even notice the operation of a forced-air system if it's designed and installed well. The major comfort advantages of forced-air, is the ability to cool if it's the usual heat pump, and you can make faster changes to indoor air temperature with the thermostat. If you can feel the warmth of a radiant floor by touch, it typically indicates a poorly built building envelope (leaky and under insulated)....See MoreRadiant floor heating - new home construction
Comments (9)If your heating needs are low enough, a DHW heater can provide hydronic space heat. To provide both DHW and space heat, you need either a heat exchanger to separate the two systems, or a second DHW heater. I'd suggest either a HTP VersaFlame, or VersaHydro to do both. Westinghouse WGR060NG076 series water heaters use the same design heat exchangers as the HTP and are probably rebadged versions of the HTP Pioneer water heaters. The heat exchangers have a unique design that looks ingenious to me. The Westinghouse heaters are very inexpensive and very efficient. You could install one for each purpose if you are going to be in the house for a long time....See MoreRecommendations about radiant in-floor heat in cold climes, new build?
Comments (26)There is no question but that you should build as energy efficient an envelope as possible. That gets you to installing the smallest size system using the least amount of energy that will suffice. The distribution side of the system remains essentially the same with the same costs almost regardless of what you install on the ‘Source’ side of the equation. The real difference regarding geothermal is the cost differential between the heat pump and the ground loop installation from anything else that might be installed. Regarding in-floor radiant, the lower the design for supply fluid temperature the more efficient the geothermal heat pump becomes. This is done primarily by close spacing of the piping. Geothermal can also either preheat or supply virtually all DHW, dehumidification and air-conditioning at COPs as high as COP 5 (1/5th the cost of operating an electric boiler). There is an absolute WAR on all energy now and for the foreseeable future - particularly Carbon based, such as Natural Gas & Propane. All the professional seminars I attend, there is nobody is talking about gas except as a ‘possible' backup or if it’s already there in residential installations and only if you really must. The leading edge today is towards Cold Climate Air-Source Heat Pumps (Air-to-Liquid), Geothermal & Hydronics. We’re even moving away from central force air to Hydronics as rapidly as possible where possible. The reason is simple economics: "A given volume of water can absorb almost 3500 times a much heat as the same volume of air, when both undergo the same temperature change.” 3/4"tube = 20"x12" duct 3/4"tube = 18" ø duct Water can be moved more efficiently than air To the OP: Particularly if you’re having a water well drilled in your property, you can contract with a well driller that also installs geothermal ground loops (Could be 1-loop of 450ft). You can plan to drill the geothermal borehole within the envelope of your home - right in the soon to be mechanical room - with no runouts, no trenches, no excavating, no backfilling & no foundation wall penetrations either - straight into a Flow Centre. Those talking about $50k to $80k more for geothermal have no idea what they’re talking about - NONE! Neither do GC that discourage it and saying there’s no sensible payback. It’s not their thing & they don’t want it to be their thing - or yours either as long as you’re their client. Separate all the HVAC from your GC, research and contract on your own. With interest rates being at historic lows, rebates, grants and tax credits, it might become a no brainer - especially the way we are and will continue be punished for using any energy. You might find the incremental cost of geothermal a real bargain when amortized over the life of a mortgage especially since it has the longest life cycle of any active HVAC system you can install. Energy savings might even be equal to or greater than its incremental monthly cost. I am a disinterested party; install whatever pleases you. IMPO SR...See Moredenalidadeb
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