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Comments (8)Hard to say much about aisleway space without knowing exact dimensions...especially on a hand-drawn diagram. I would want a minimum of 3.5 feet between front of fridge and the island...so you kind of need to know how far out beyond the edge of the counter-top your fridge will stick. Many modern refrigerators extend as much as 12 inches beyond the countertop. Most extend 8 to 12 inches. If you look up fridge dimensions, bear in mind that you need to leave 2 to 4 inches of space behind your fridge for air circulation. So, if you get a 32 inch deep fridge and have 25 inch countertops, the fridge will stick out 9 to 11 inches further than the countertop. If you have a 4ft aisle between island and wall countertop, you'll have a little over 3 feet between fridge and island. Since ovens aren't usually accessed quite as often as the fridge, the clearances on that end are not quite as critical but I'd still want a good 3 ft aisle way. If you ask me, DW should be closer to breakfast nook b/c that will probably be the eating area most often used. But I can see why you want the sink where it is (for a view out the window) and that doesn't leave you too much choice about DW location. You didn't ask so I hope you won't mind me mentioning it... it would bother me that someone sitting in front of your kitchen island will have a straight in view of the toilet in the powder room. I can pretty much promise you that that pocket door will get left standing open most of the time. If it were me, I'd try to move the powder room to get rid of direct views into it from any eating or food prep area....See MoreKitchen Layout Advice Needed
Comments (13)Thanks for all of the great feedback! We too are concerned about seeing the kitchen from the front door. It does make for a very informal space. Starting from scratch we would not have designed a house this way, but we are trying to make the best use out of the space we have. We had contemplated moving the kitchen down to the dining/laundry area as suggested. The big problem with that setup is we would have to give up the laundry room, and it would make for a pretty large dining room area that I�m not sure we would fully utilize. It would also require a decent amount of work, to move doors, electrical, plumbing, add windows, etc. I do like the idea of a sliding door leading out to the porch area though! The rear family room currently does not exist, as I had it drawn on the original floor plan. That is a future addition that may or may not happen, just depending on how long we stay in the home. Currently there is a non-conditioned sunroom where that family room would be located (so we still have to keep an entry into that area). The front living room is the only true living space the house currently contains. I agree regarding formal living spaces. My parents have a formal living room, and that room is absolutely never used (other than to store coats when guests come over). I too agree about swapping the living room furniture arrangement. I am not fond of having to walk in front of the television when entering the home from the front door. However, to swap the setup and create a hallway with the couch, we greatly decrease the useable space in the living room. You also are greeted by a television set and the back of a couch when you first walk in the door, vs. looking at the front of a couch and chairs. Again, it�s definitely not ideal, and it would be great to have a separate foyer. I�m kind of torn about the concern over venting the cooktop. Growing up, my parents did not have a vent over their range, other than the undersized vent that was built-in to the microwave. There were never any issues with fumes or smells. Our main concern with the island cooktop is the traffic jam that seems likely to occur with having the sink, stove, and dishwasher directly all in the same general area. We also would like to have the island completely open, as it seems that everyone likes to congregate around an island. We just really didn�t want to see the refrigerator when you walk in the front door. As liriodendron suggested, the island cooktop does create the "cooking show" effect. I think we are leaning towards moving the stove to the outside wall. I�ve included some updated shots of the kitchen layout, along with some shots of layout if we were to swap the kitchen and dining room areas. I�ve added a second window to the kitchen area, which would bring in more light to the kitchen, allow us to better center the sink and cabinets, and allow for more counter space between the sink and the refrigerator. Photos if we were to swap the kitchen and dining room areas:...See MoreNew Kitchen Layout Feedback for a Philly Renovation
Comments (6)I like it. I think you're going to have good storage and a nice work flow. Definitely use boxes or furniture or something to simulate the island and do some play cooking to determine how wide you like your aisles to be. Some of us like a bit wider than the recommended 48", some less. I thought I was going for 54" but I recently decided to widen mine to 62". Some people might consider that too wide but I really like it. When facing the range, how long are the counters on the left and right sides? I ask because you may have room for a prep sink to the right of the range. That would make your kitchen even more efficient with all clean-up on island and all prep/cook on perimeter. Of course, the island could also be used for secondary prep, if needed. What is #6? It looks like an appliance of some kind? I would put the DW in #14 with the most used dishes and utensils in #21. This is especially important if you don't go with a prep sink on the perimeter. This way someone can prep on the closest path from refrigerator to stove without crossing over the clean-up person. And this also leaves your dishes closest to the dining area to make setting the table easier and the person doing that needn't enter the prep/cook zone. Make sure you do a deep enough overhang for seating. Here are the recommendations. Some folks here like the overhang a bit deeper than these so you might also want to mock up something to see what works best for you. Definitely don't go shallower. And the items stored under really do need to be items not needed often like, maybe, seasonal dishes and serving pieces because you would get tired of crawling under there to get things very often. I would use pull-out shelves so you can at least bring things closer to grab....See MoreLooking for kitchen layout advice
Comments (12)the fridge shift to the garage side is good. I'd eliminate the pantry cabinetry as it won't match your perimeter which you are leaving intact. Instead, make a bigger island , that intentionally does not match perimeter, install drawers and rollouts, more seating. the 11 y old will come with friends....you will use the larger surface and find it becomes a better substitute for table.......if a selling time comes it will be a "feature" more than a small island. Maybe install a shallow counter over on pantry[dining room wall] for coffee/charging devices/landing/etc. When you change your perimeter, in the future, you can add shallow depth pantry cabinetry if you want it. My personal inclination would be a "leave alone" approach to the entire perimeter.. put in a stylish faucet, new hardware and focus on a bigger, better island, pendant lighting. You want new counters/backsplash on the older oak? that is a big debate that gives a lot of opinions. Your particular counters/backsplash can easily be left. Spend on an island: re-evaluate the entire perimeter down the road....See More- 8 years ago
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