Gritty mix with perlite instead of bark
ethanqsimmons
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Al's Gritty mix: sub perlite or polystyrene beads/pellets?
Comments (1)I don't have anything to add, other than the fact I've always been satisfied with the results I've been able to achieve using perlite in my media, but I understand your want to separate the components & to recycle them. I would think that if available, the PS beads would serve you well in that capacity, as well as in the capacity of reducing water retention. The pH of hort. perlite is generally considered neutral. Good luck - let us know how you fare! Al...See MoreQuestion for Al (tapla) re bark in gritty mix
Comments (39)Hey Al, just wanted to make sure that 2 years later all this advice is current. Some of my gritty mix is now just about 2 years old also. It seems to be holding up but I got to thinking, like some of those in this thread, that it sure would be nice to have a permanent mixture for the long term plantings, by withholding the organic ingredient. Plus it's one less ingredient to have to buy and later screen. I see your main purpose for including it was to lessen the fears of potential gritty mix users that plants couldn't possibly grow in it. It's also used to average the particle size and water retention of the two other ingredients. I use FP to fertilize and look after my plants often enough that this isn't a fear of mine. I utilized a 1:1 ratio of Cherrystone:Turface for two basjoo banana trees planted in the ground here in zone 4. I have heavy clay and when I grew them the last time, they grew slow and their corms later rotted over the winter. I also don't think I properly watered/fertilized. So this year after reading your posts in the link below, I upped the FP by 4x to 1 tsp of FP per gal, rather than 1/4 tsp I used before, and brought the PH down to 5.5 with vinegar rather than the unacidified 7 of my tap water. I know you water with this dosage weekly with outdoor plants but I watered with it almost every day during the hot summer days with no apparent issues. I found that this amount of FP was too much for the indoor plants though... I also experimented with digging about a 4-5 gal hole where I planted the bananas and poured in the 1:1, so at least some of the soil near the corm and roots didn't have to deal with the heavy clay. The plants grew waaay faster this summer and hopefully it'll help the stems/corms survive this winter. I utilized the 1:1 before reading your post in this thread about using a higher ratio of granite/cherrystone to compensate for the small particle size of the turface. Even though the basjoo's did great in the 1:1, I'm guessing in a pot, a proper ratio (2:1 or 3:2 like you mentioned) would be a bit more important. Is this a safe assumption? Here is a link that might be useful: Fertilizing advice...See MoreAl's Gritty Mix for Succulents/Cacti- 1:1:1 with bark or no bark?
Comments (38)I've been using a 50:50 base mix of perlite/ turface for many years. You can easily modify this mix for different needs. Most mesembs benefit from the addition of a clayey component. For me, I just dig beyond the topsoil in my yard for some good dirt. I also substitute perlite for some lava rock and small pebbles. It's a heavier, longer lasting mix which works when repotting infrequently for mesembs. This same mix is my preference for small cactus species like Aztekium, Blossfeldia, tricky mamms like luethyi, etc. "bigger" plants like some Crassula, aloes, aeonium etc. you could add more perlite to lighten big pots. It also makes it safer to leave outdoors all spring/summer/fall with rain. My palms, plumeria and cycads live in this mix too. Floating perlite is not an issue. But it does easily displace with high water pressure like from a hose. Some form of fertilizer is a must. I'm also a fan of submerging small pots with small plants into bigger, deeper containers to help stabilize root temperatures. Practically any healthy plant I've ever had to repot always has roots circling the bottom. I really don't understand the concept of shallow or regular pots. I think the deeper the better. I haven't really noticed any exception. For some species it's mandatory. Haworthias, many cactus plants with tuberous roots. Even Lithops which tolerate a shallow home will grow much better in very deep pots. Pleiospilos too. For anyone unsure or unconvinced, try an experiment. Take a pot with any plant you want, and bury it into much deeper pot for a growing season. Pull it out later and see what you find. Bury an Aloe, pachypodium or most any strong Echeveria or similar in the garden and watch it take off. We would all be great at bonsai, plenty good experience with root constriction and limiting growth lol!...See MoreSecuring plants in gritty/bark mixes?
Comments (3)I usually use stakes... about 3 or 4, cut to size and pushed all the way into the medium at the outer edges of the pot at intervals, then use coated garden wire (like twistie-ties) or twine tied to the stakes, and loosely to the plant, to help support newly potted plants, or plants with tall leaves. You could also bend thick wire into a loop on a longer stake, much like those sold in garden centers to support tall flower stems. I've also utilized small pot trellises, those U-shaped bamboo stakes, or anything else I can fashion out of what I have laying around. And yes... just as Josh says, the roots will grow to colonize the medium. Most of my potted plants are Amaryllis bulbs, so I use a lot of support methods to help keep the leaves upright and the flower stems from bending over under the weight of flowers and toppling the bulbs right out of the pots. Some bulbs are known to grow their leaves and bloom before putting out decent root systems, so support is often a necessary thing for my indoor plants....See Moreethanqsimmons
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