We have a GE Profile slide in with 2 ovens. Love it. Second oven definitely more useful than a warming drawer-

I read another post here that said the Jenn-Air cannot be manually lit. We may be thinking of different posts, but the recent thread about that was not about a JennAir. It was about a KA double oven range. The other WP built single oven ranges (including JennAIr) can be lit manually. Does the Bosch manual really not mention lighting without power? If customer service is too lazy to get you a certain answer, the only way to find out is to download the wiring diagram. Unfortunately BSH keeps that info locked up so only their authorized servicers can get to it. Fan noise... you'll only be able to tell by seeing the range in action. Even if someone who bought the range responds with their own experience, this stuff can vary a lot based on installation and noise sensitivity, so your opinion may not match theirs. I can't count the number of posts where some people find the noise bothersome and others don't mind at all, for the exact same product. Runtime... depends on how hot the oven was, but expect it to be anywhere from 30 minutes to an hour after cooking for any oven.

https://www.build.com/bosch-hslp751uc/s1462192?uid=3439625 That is the Bosch I am looking at if I don't go with the Wolf E" Series Speed Oven and Wolf E" Series Wall Oven. The sales guy also said he liked Thermador and Cafe, but we're looking at a Wolf Induction and a Bosch fridge and Dishwasher so I'm trying to simplify how many brands we are using in the kitchen.

In terms of seeing appliances in person, I think it really depends because there are some aspects of functionality that really should be viewed in person. I had no particular need to see my Bosch dishwasher in person since I knew what it was going to be like based on the on line descriptions. When I bought my first *real* dishwasher years ago I did want to see dishwashers in person so that I had a better sense of what the different options were like. I have the Bosch Benchmark side opening oven which I really like. I did want to see that in person but I would have been fine to order it on-line. However I was glad to have found it at a place near me and I could check out the telescoping rack. Refrigerators were a completely different issue as there are some many possible variations in terms of how the interior space could be used and refrigerators were actually the most difficult appliance for me to select as all of the others were easy to nail down because they had very specific features within my budget - e.g. Bosch side opening wall oven; Bosch induction cooktop with burner configuration as well as controls that didn't make you cycle through. So I went to view refrigerators repeatedly in person to to get a sense of what it would be like to actually use specific refrigerators. Luckily I was able to find a refrigerator (KA) which had the features I wanted available in person to look at and compare with a good number of other refrigerators. Looking at refrigerators on-line solely (in my experience) is not sufficient. I am really happy with my Bosch Benchmark side opening oven. However when I was researching appliances there seemed to be advice that getting a double oven was not necessarily the wisest choice since failure of one might mean both of the ovens would need to be replaced. I have a microwave drawer as I have limited space but if I had a large kitchen with room for two ovens I would probably go with a second oven that had different functionality like a steam oven.