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Advice needed for poor basement drainage

Jesse
8 years ago

Okay, I have a rather unique scenario that I wanted to ask for some advice on. This is my parent's house and my mother basically inherited it herself when we lost my dad. Obviously, she isn't qualified to fix the basement. My parents apparently had a really dumb inspector when they purchased in the house in '79. They've put up with this issue ever since. Actually, he "missed" a lot of things in their inspection that weren't up to par.

Long story short: before the FHA would approve the loan for my parents when they bought the house, they required the said former owners to remove the water heater from the kitchen(!) and dig out a space for it in the basement. They did. A makeshift sump at one end of a cinderblocked retaining wall hole. Water heater at the other end. Over the years, when they got central heat/air, the machine had to go in the basement in the middle. It couldn't go in the attic or another room.

The top of the dirt in the photo is ground level. You can see how far they dug below ground level. They made the retaining wall, but it has a lot of holes in it. It discharges openly all over the place, running across with no order and finally making it into the sump hole (which is about 80 to 90 gallons, I would estimate). No closure, no waterproofing, no proper drain. Nightmare scenario. When it rains for a few days straight, that can turn into a 75gpm inflow of water madly running across the floor of the hole. It seeps into the ground, out of the crawlspace dirt on the outside of the wall and through the cinderblock wall. Some places, little holes where it sprays out. However, most of it comes from cinderblocks at the base of the wall that they turned sideways for a means of draining when they built the wall. A lot of the dirt must have washed down into the whole, but apparently below all of the hole is concrete.

This has disaster all over it, of course. Minor moisture/mold issues inside of the house, etc. A waterproofing company would charge probably $20,000 or more to fix all of this. She doesn't have that and is a poor widow barely making it. Apparently some sheet drain/dimple board could theoretically be nailed to the inside of the wall and a french drain installed under the perimeter of the wall. However, that's a massive amount of concrete to get through. Our houses are close together with other houses and not to mention that is a tight area down there, so I can't see myself trying to break the cement bottom with a sledgehammer or a jackhammer. Plus, even if I did all of that, the water is still technically "open" (there is a space between the wall and the dirt on the outside part of the retaining wall), so I don't see much of a difference. It would reduce the footprint of the open water, however.

I'm pondering the idea of going all the way around the wall sealing the various little holes, cracks, etc., and getting some of that black plastic drain hose (like used for gutter downspouts) and fixing it in the base holes of the venting cinderblocks at the bottom of the wall. Cement/mortar packed around them to hold them in and force water to go through the pipe only, then lead those pipes to the sump hole directly. Somehow install a decent sump basin from what they have existing there (probably can't dig that hole deeper and it is way too wide and not deep enough for most sump basins) and feed those pipes into it. Maybe put some kind of rocks or gravel or something around the sump basin to hold it in place in the large hole. This would also reduce the footprint of the water and at least have it going in a predictable place.

Will the idea work? Not sure. It currently only works in my mind. I need to do something about it, however. Any advice?

Some photos:

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The upper part of the crawlspace isn't exactly hospitable, but stays dry. I don't know why the former owners seem to have dug out various areas making it uneven. They dug too much out for the hole and didn't do anything properly.

http://oi63.tinypic.com/dexwtd.jpg


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