I'm not sure what you mean by completely out. They are in a little solo cup with no lid or covering. They are just out like my african violets. I won't say I've kept them completely happy, but I didn't keep any of my plants completely happy over the summer. They are okay, though.

WAY TO GROW! Denise! Great picture too! I haven't had that one bloom yet.... I may have to go on a bud search! I think different Hoyas smell different! My son thinks Hoyas carnosa and compacta smell like chocolate, Hoya obscura smells like fruit loops, Hoya DS-70 (tsangii) smells like pancake syrup & butter, the nectar is real sweet too. Makes me wonder if the nectar on the perfumey smellers like Hoyas shepherdii and nummularioides is bitter??????? They also tend to have a stronger scent when it's cool out, morning and night! Thanks for sharing the pix!

Pat at Roses Unlimited is very nice, she cleared up the shipping confusion, by listing an example for CA, where the shipping charge is $8 for each additional rose, rather than $5 to my zone 5a, Chicagoland. Here's what Pat of Roses Unlimited e-mailed me: "I will list the cost for CA just to show how it works- 1-2 roses - Minimum $22 3 roses - $35 4 roses - $35 5 roses - $40 After 5 roses the charge goes back to $8 per plant which was the same as last season so for 6 roses, it would be $48." Pat of RU. *** From Straw: For my zone 5a, IL, shipping cost would be: 1-2 roses: Minimum $16 3 roses - $26 4 roses - $26 5 roses - $31 After 5 roses, the charge goes back to $5 per plant, which will be 5 x 6 = $30 for 6 roses. So if someone buy 6 roses, then one gets the best deal in shipping. It's still confusing to me, since Pat gave me the breakdown for CA, and I had to figure out the break-down for my Illinois, which is east of Miss, River, with minimum of $16 shipping charge. Roses Unlimited is out of Young Lycidas, so I'll wait until next year to place an order. Pat also inform me that Boscobel won't be available next year, since it takes a few years before David Austin releases new roses.

any time you move a plant, you want to change its environment gradually. I would move it outdoors in a shady location protected from wind, then every few days move it into the sun more, until it is acclimated to the spot you want to put it.