Any cooking applications that are better on Gas vs. Induction?
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All-gas vs. dual-fuel vs. induction - 30" range
Comments (28)So I'll update this, as we still haven't made a decision. Induction: I bought an induction burner and like it, although it isn't as life-changing as I sort of expected. (I realize the power is much lower than a range or cooktop would be.) We also had an electrician examine our house, and he thinks we can put one in. My dad (also an electrician) and husband agree we should do a max load test before we put 40 or more amps on the panel, though. (Long story short: we have a 200 amp breaker but 100 amps coming into the house, so we need to put in a smaller breaker.) So it's still a bit up in the air. Gas/dual-fuel: I went to look at the Aga Legacy today and really liked it. I'm also going to look at a Lacanche soon, at a Lacanche ambassador's house. Both of those are, frankly, more than I wanted to pay, but I really love the looks and some of the features a lot (ovens on the Aga, simmer plate and large burner on the Lacanche). I've also considered a BlueStar or Big Chill Pro Style (rebadged BlueStar), but there isn't one local to me. The price, features, and availability of the color finish are good, but I'm a little nervous about all the issues people have had. I think I've looked at nearly every option out there, but I'd love to hear more if anyone has ideas!...See MoreInduction vs. Gas.. Am I making a mistake?
Comments (98)As promised I tried cooking on both induction and gas for most of the evening and did identical dishes on the same pan, here are my thoughts: I was more than impressed with capital and every single bit of information here has been accurate about the culinarian. The simmer was fantastic high heat was more than anyone will use in a day-to-day residential kitchen but it�s there if you need to do wok cooking or some quick water boil. I was very happy with the culinarian and was practically sold but had to reserve my judgment until I had tried the induction. Now I have waited a good day or so before writing my thoughts so I can process everything I experienced and be as objective to my needs as possible. My one word experience with induction has been "magic". The induction usage was same as the culinarian, i.e. I made the same dishes and I did not alter my cooking at all. I tossed the items (vegetables) by lifting my pan and it made little to no difference as you do it once or twice and put it back on. The amazing magical factor was the lack of sweat on my forehead even as few burners were going doing various things. Magical aspects included lack of atmospheric temperature increase and accuracy of level of heat - holding sauces directly in the pan (butter without burning and cream based sauce, sure would be true for chocolate also). Without going overboard praising induction cooking I will say everything people have mentioned in terms of lack of heat loss, efficiency & cleaning of these cooktops have been very humbly stated. I am more confident than before that I will be going the induction route and enjoy a clean looking contemporary kitchen with little to no cleanups after cooking and not to mention a much cooler kitchen in summer. One thing that concerned me was power sharing issues and I realized even while water boiling the bosch if group 1 or 3 is used it shuts the shared hobs off but water boiling is something I don't do everyday and if I do what are the chances all groups are being used? Water boiling for pasta can be done on group two whose boosting does not disable anything. So the power sharing is a non-issue for me. I personally cannot come up with any reason to go to boost except water boiling and trying to heat oil for deepfrying, the high level of heat from the hobs is already hot enough and the hobs reach the set level so quickly that you don�t have to blast it on powerboost to get the temp and reduce it down. Someone had mentioned water boiling (I did not do this test on both times but I did boil water and I was gobsmacked at how quickly the induction boiled water at 9 without any flames)is quick but how quickly would it carmalize onions. I did cook some vegetables and I decided to carmalize the onions for funs sake on both culinarian and the induction. For both devices I did not go max heat and lower it down I set the heat level with oil in and started to cook, I timed both and the induction was a wee bit quicker. This is of no huge importance to me on which device you can quick faster on, they are both excellent devices and for me personally the pros outweigh the cons for the induction. I think whoever is trying to decide between gas and induction; that you should atleast go out and try to cook on both devices and then make up your mind. I am looking forward to cooking without dripping sweat all over and requiring showers after most cooking sessions. I did not do any steaks or burgers or pork chops. I cooked some eggs, a quick stir fry, boiled some pasta, thawed frozen sauce and just held butter on low. All this was done on a capital range top and a bosch 800 series induction in the same location and same day....See MoreBosch gas slide-in vs. Electrolux induction freestanding
Comments (7)On the point of durability/reliability as a factor: Athough this is good point to consider, I'm not sure how much we can really say about the Bosch slide-in gas range being or not being more long lived than the freestanding Electrolux induction, nor how much longer lived it might be. The hope is that a gas range without much in the way of electronics for the burners will have less to fail and therefore last longer. Still, the big uncertainty is the result of of the prevalence of electronic control systems in all kinds of major brand ranges. All seem prone to some early failure and to reflect susceptibility to issues with high-heat self cleaning cycles. I have to say, that a lot of the discussion that I've seen here about longevity of gas versus induction has been about gas ranges that are premium-priced pro-style ranges and re-conditioned vintage ranges rather than major brand gas stoves. I sometimes see citations to statistics garnered and reported by the National Assocation of Home Builders and Consumer Reports which were indicating 11 year lives for electric ranges and 13 year lives for gas ranges. Turned out, though, that those statistics were about replacement rates rather than appliance life expectancies. Plenty of folks remodel and replace functional ranges for something they regard (or hope) will be better. On the comments, "I can get a slide-in model that I like and I prefer the appearance over a freestanding" and "There is no slide in induction range that I like not to mention the price differential." Choosing any stove is inevitably choosing a mix of compromises of design, engineering, and budget. Induction burners are just one of numbers of factors to consider. How you weight that factor along with all the other considerations may be different than how I or most others else here might weight our own preferences, priorities and/or prejudices when choosing a stove. My own aesthetic preferences run to old-fashioned appliance white with a tolerance for stainless steel and general distaste for black casings. Yours are the opposite. My preferences are not "better." They are just what I prefer. So, I say, have confidence in your own priorities and your own budget. When you are paying as much for a stove as these cost, aesthetics are a valid consideration. Re the comment: "Even more burner/hob control than gas - seems like it would be better at lower heat levels such as simmering." Another set of tradeoffs rather than clear choices of one being intrinsically better than another. I'm not sure that that there is necessarily better low heat "control" with the Elux freestanding. There might be, might not be for you. Depends on what and how you cook, what you cook with, and what your preferences are. While the Elux burners have more low-end stepping than on most induction ranges, the settings are still digitally stepped. The Bosch burners have "analog" adjustments which are theoretically infinite. Do we really need infinite adjustability? Some of us want it. Others of us find there are enough steps in digital controls for what and how they cook. There are a number of OTOH tradeoffs beyond this. With a pan that is matched with burner size, an electric burner will deliver heat more evenly spread across the base of a pan. Spread is one thing. Steadiness is another. Depending on how the power cycling works, the heat may or may not be steady. With induction burners, you will have a small circle in the center of the toroidal induction field which is outside the field and where you depend on the pan construction to spread the heat. On the induction burners on most ranges, including the Elux you are considering, heat cycling is very even and steady, so you won't see power cycling in pan liquids. (Not so much applicable to some Whirlpool ranges and cooktops which reportedly have cruder power cycling rather like that on many portable induction cookers). With the Bosch gas burners being capped rings, you also get a toroidal effect in heat delivery and it can be more pronounced than with induction at very low heat levels. Again, a pan's construction may spread the low heat sufficiently evenly to the edges and to the center. Otherwise, when you put a pan on a small gas burner and turn the heat way down, you may find the low flame concentrates the heat towards a small area in around center. No big deal for simmering liquids but maybe a problem with things like delicate thickened sauces or chocolate where having the flame concentrated towards the center. Depending on your pan's construction and how you want the heat controlled, you might or might-not find yourself wanting a flame tamer plate. Another OTOH is that the Elux digital control make it very easy to exactly repeat heat levels when you figure out the ones you want to use. With gas, you have to eyeball it every time. At least I do with the gas that gets delivered in my town. (We are near production fields but get last choice, so the quality varies.) This is why I prefer my induction burner for my pressure cookers. Are any of these big problems? Maybe. Maybe not. They seem to have been concerns for some posters here. The concerns might or might not matter for your own cooking and interests....See MoreWolf Induction Cooktop vs. Wolf Gas Cooktop??
Comments (26)I saw the newest Wolf induction cooktop and I was impressed with its versatility. Specifically, I am speaking of model CI365T/S. I really like the burner layout with the four burners that can be bridged on one side and a larger oval burner on the other side. It offers what seems to be the most flexible layout. There are other induction cooktops with "flexible" zones but they are in a layout that is less versatile, most commonly with a large round hob in the center and the flexible zones on either side. My building does not have gas so when I upgrade, I will be looking at induction. As of now, I think the Wolf is my favorite but I am a year or two out and something new may change my thinking....See MoreFori
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