Pagan, you may want to revise your list by the time spring gets here... Just so everyone knows, there are two differences between STC and Sheilam. First, postage is based on the value of YOUR order, i.e., if your order in 10% of the total value, you pay proportionately. Second, their phytosan cert is MUCH less than STC's. And one last VERY important factor aside from the fact the plants are a bit larger, the SAR, South African Rand, is about $0.07, i.e., a 95 R plant will cost you about $6.25.

The Sheilam order is not limited to just Haworthias for any reason , is it? Lots of nice things on there...

Yes and no. We are limited by our import license. If the plants are coming to me and you can tell me specific genera you wish to order, as long as NONE are CITES, I can amend my license in a timely fashion to include what you want. It can take two to three weeks to update. If it isn't listed on my license, it won't be coming, PERIOD.

Ah, I see. Your license is currently just for Haworthias, I take it? I will check out the CITES status of some things I am interested in. Thanks for the explanation!

No not only Haworthia, but it may not include things you may want. And the other issue is if th person in California places the order and plants go to him on his license, h may not have listed what you want. For either of us, absolutely no CITES plants.

Get your soda and popcorn, hawies, it's that time of the year on eBay again.

...confess. which one of you won that? Not really a record-breaker. I once saw a haworthia specimen go for about $1700. Nuts.

Many of my Haworthia are 'in progress', but here's one that has changed quite a bit over the past four months:

Kevin, very nice. Pagen, have you looked at Renny's website? Talk about nice Haws at a price!!!!!

Wow, she's a fast grower, Kevin. The most prolific I have is H. venosa sp tesselata. I have one in a community pot that sent out a pup 5 inches away on the opposite side.

Yes, that $270 haworthia was one of Renny's, Howard. Another one sold for $385 lol There is a lot of sellers outside the US pricing themselves out of the market so badly it's funny. But Renny starts out at $10 per plant and then whooosh! hundreds of dollars in five days. Are these even real people?

Pagan

Nice Eww, may I ask how deep your pot is? I've been worried about finding a new pot because I heard that the "tender" Haworthias have long tap roots that need to go deep.

Nicholas - It's a 6" wide orchid pot, 5" deep with slits up the sides. This is the biggest size pot I am normally using.

Howard - Renny's Haworthias are just crazy! I think I almost died when I first logged in to see the prices.

Pagan - For your H. venosa ssp tesselata, do you have yours in just enough light to keep it a little greenish? I've been trying to figure mine out, but it hasn't grown that much.

Thank you for the info, sounds like what they call orchid pots here.

Nick:

Fortunately, you wont have to do trial and error. Just ask away and if we have what you have, we can just clue you in on the kind of root mass specific species have. I'm not sure there can be a rule of thumb. These three have been in the same pots for going on 3 years now.

Kevin: I confess that I prefer my haworthias to be in the house upstairs instead of the basement. They get about 5 hours of sun, right against the glass doors. That amount of light keeps them slightly greenish but warm indoor temperature also keeps them more thirsty. So in winter I still lightly water every three weeks or so. I really do not like watering plants all the time and weekly counts as "all the time" in my head.

When I was keeping them under lights, they had to be about a foot from the T5HOs with a fan blowing. The H. venosa ssp tesselata had to be at the very edge of the fixture.

On the other hand, it's hard to judge. The venosa part can look this way but then it's also fine looking this way. Same with the tesselata part which has no problems looking like this although it can also look likethis.

In case you haven't spent hours looking at that site, here is the link:

All You Want to Know About Gasterias and Haworthias

Pagan

Pagan, you mentioned watering every three weeks or so during the winter. Your weather is similar to mine. I keep my Haws in the greenhouse at about 65's nights and 70's days. I know you have a few small Haws from STC. Do you let these go that long between watering? I can see doing this with established plants but your newbies???? I understand my greenhouse conditions will be different than your home... humidity, etc.

Howard, OMG, no! I was talking about established plants. I treat newly-repotted haworthias with nervous half-panic lol Frequent light spraying towards the base only, being very careful not to get the rosette wet. Most of these tend to completely lose their roots when repotted but reroot if treated properly.

Pagan you have so many beautiful squishy haworthias :)! How often are you spraying the less established plants, are you doing any bottom watering to get them settled or completely inappropriate for late fall/winter?

Thanks, ML. I especially like squishy, windowed haworthias. I don't do bottom-watering (I'll never remember to get them out of the puddle); I spray maybe every two or three days, maybe four. This interminable process can last up to several months, too, until I see them start to take up water. I use pure pumice, sifted obsessively.

Coolplants, that is a nice plant.

Thanks Pagan, I only have 4 Haworthia ... so far.

H. attenuata variegata
H. cymbiformis

H. limifolia

H. reinwadtii

Thanks fakechuchi

I checked on my STC haworthias last night.

"Secret Forest" is doing very well. It's now nice and plump with a tiny hint of a new leaf deep in the rosette.

"Crystal Ball" is also up!

"Matrix" is not doing so well so I dug it up.

Nice growing, Pagan. So does this mean you'll be back in the spring for another STC order or maybe Sheilam.....?????

Succulent enablers, the lot of you!

Not much of an enabler, if you don't join in...LOL And quite frankly, the enabler here is Pagan as now I have put both 'Crystal Ball' and 'Secret Forest' on my March order from STC. Hopefully, there will be some left!!!!

Peer pressure there, bikerdoc?

Pagan, I made the mistake of pulling out a H. bayeri since it didn't have many roots to begin with and was looking really red/stressed. Lo and behold, it had new white roots like yours. Looks can be so deceiving.

Now, I'm an enabler!!!! Most of these are from Sheilam in South Africa that arrived earlier this summer. It took several weeks to arrive because they went to Atlanta before being sorted in California and then on to me. I will definitely being placing an order in March as part of a group or alone if no one else is interested.

Right now this doesn't look like much but I think it has great potential to develop into something very nice with its leaf markings.

This not from SA, but from Mr. Hammer.

I purchased a couple of these because they are great plants and they were very cheap. This was 30 ZAR ($2.00) and the next one was more costly, 55 ZAR ($3.85).

Biker Fact is ( IMO) your the # 1 haworthia enabler in my book. As the enabler are you the STC group go to guy for next spring or is it someone else ?

Also (while I have you at the keyboard). Do I trash it ? Keep it with an open agenda or give it to someone for practice ?

This is a hand over ( best price ever free) so called whirlpool or whirlwind H. trunkcata with it's 4 pups after 6 or so years.

Nomen, I was extremely fortunate to be invited into the group (https://www.facebook.com/groups/1645040895765431/). A gentleman in California spearheaded the group. He has been ordering from STC for a few years when fixed costs were nominal. When these costs gradually got larger, he invited his Facebook® friends to join together and reduce costs. Because I am retired and some of our orders will have over 200 plants with several participants, I have volunteered to placing the orders and doing the sorting. So yes and no to your question. Certainly, anyone on this forum who may have a significant interest in participating is more than welcome and may contact me (LASSERH@HOTMAIL.COM) in the spring for either STC or Sheilam.

That Haworthia is also know by a couple other names: Haworthia truncata/maughanii hybrid and Haworthia 'Sizanumi'. What you do with it is your choice. I'm certain you must have some local friends who would love to have it.

Pagan - Nice to see an update, especially the inadvertent root check. My H. 'Crystal Ball' is doing quite well and has grown a bit.

My H. 'Matrix' got a bit more light than necessary and turned quite reddish, but otherwise hasn't changed much. Surprisingly, once the roots plumped up a little they pushed the plant up higher in the pot and I had to add some more mix.

I decreased my lighting levels a couple weeks ago and some of them are greening up, while others are lagging behind. These little ones need less light than I expected.

I will say Sheilam is slower to get their act together and their plant availability list is sometimes spotty. We will see what spring brings.

Howard, i think you are confusing me with someone who is actually resisting the urge to get more haworthias (as if that ever works). That ship has sailed, yo lol I'm just waiting for spring now, with my long list.

I have been stalking local sources of H. springbokvlakensis for a couple of years now, Kevin. I hope we won't have to duel for it lol

Oh hang on, I just re-read that post. Me? Me and my 17 haworthias are somehow enabling you, Howard with your six gazillion haworthias?!

Cardio, I know what you mean! I had the same episode with my H. bayeri. After that, though, I got the point. Haworthia conversations take months or more.

For ye who are not wondering and don't care, this is a springbok:

Pagan

It's also a region South Africa, I think.

I also want the H. springbokvlakensis!!!!!

Hi

What is the best sized pot for a zebra haworthia to be put in to the pots there in now say .45mm there small plastic pots the smallest I have seen maybe

.45 mm = 1/64 inch. The re-pot would need apx 1 inch (25.4 mm apx) if it's already one inch then up the pot size to 1.25 inch (31.75 mm. apx) to 1.50 inch (38 mm apx.)

So they like deeper pots then shallow pots and what kind of soil mix would you recommend

Matthew you ask : So they like deeper pots then shallow pots.

Not to deep, take a look at the posted pics for the general idea for pot size references.

Your H. Attenuatta will be okay if you re-pot it the same size as the pot on the right

( sorry for being a little off topic guys )

Soil for Haworthia ( almost every one of my potted succulents in my collection) I use a costume made mix that provides fast/sharp draining soil that varies ( a-lot ) from the standard mix suggestion but the basic gritty mix in equal parts of 1-1-1 also works.

Best suggestion for a very good custom made soil that i can offer to you is look at the pics on this thread.

Ohh by the way ..... Welcome to the forum.

So many cute plants!!

Are they happier when planted so their windows are only barely above the soil? I know that's how they grow in the wild, but in a house they don't have the same threat from the sun.

I sure do think you sorry for bothering you since ur off topic on haworthias for answering my question on my haworthia sorry

The first picture is of this plant upon arrival and the second is taken today (1/14/16). I, personally, like the red hues of the stressed plant.

I don't recall where or when I posted this. I am deeply indebted to Kevin for sharing his plant and enabling me to acquire mine. Here we are today.

Is there a trick to keep mealies away from the more succulent Haws? I can grow the tougher Haws no problem. Any of the flat triangle head or truncata types are magnets for mealies in SoCal.

Howard - Anytime! Here's my 'Omori' comparison photo:

July 2015 left, January 2016 right.

Aloebot - Can't say I had any troubles with mealies on these before. One thing is for sure, I am keeping all new plants quarantined far away from my prized Haworthia!!!

Nice, Kevin!

One more that I forgot to post with the above! Interesting species that clumps with lots of small almost chartreuse-coloured leaves.

Haworthia cymbiformis var obtusa - July 2015 left, January 2016 right.

Mayo if the pot says .45 mm and the plant its self is about three inches tall should I go to the one inche since its not to root bound or wait to repot when totally root bound thanks

Matthew - I think you should post a new thread with a couple photos. Better spot and easier to see. =)