will trade fronline plus for small dogs up to 22 lbs lmk by e-mail if this is of interest.

I hope you bookmarked the Clothiers site for future reference, it's a reliable source of many years. The very few times I've found germination to be different than his suggestions, it has been when sowing seed immediately after harvesting with no storage at all. If propagating is interesting to you - from seed and other methods - you might look for a copy of Making More Plants, Druse. Very well illustrated and there is a detailed germination guide for many plants in the back there too - his first suggestions are often for freshly harvested seed, followed by those for seed dried and stored.

Anyone have too many American Holly volunteers they want someone to take off their hands? Or Ironwood or Black Gum.

I realize that is not the correct cultivar for that spot, but it was planted by the builder in 1962. It is too beautiful to remove, if you had only seen it before it had been butchered. I love this tree so much I had the police out here! They didn't dare touch my cornus florida which is about 3 inches from the power lines. I would like to have a 'natchez' there but I just can bring myself to get rid of this one. That tree has gotten me awards (yard of the month) in the past years. Now, it looks like a piece of crap from the road. Crepe myrtles are very sturdy, I have never seen one fall. It has survived some really bad ice storms that caused some other trees in the area to split in pieces. This crepe myrtle will never have it's beautiful widespread canopy again thanks to those unsympathetic jackasses.