your oldest rose
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Comments (16)Campanula, you can certainly do that 2 season thing but in my opinion there's absolutely no need to. Just move it during its dormancy even without any soil on it's roots and no fibrous roots whatsoever. New fibrous roots will start growing immediately after re-plant unless soil is frozen (if it is you shouldn't move the rose in the first place). Remember this was probably the way it was originally sold to you. Any plant that goes into winter dormancy can be moved bare root as long as it can be pruned hard. I tend to think that this can be a better way of moving a rose in its dormancy than carrying a root ball with it since you will avoid issues with rootball soil incompatibility with soil in the new spot drainage wise and you will also avoid the odd chance of the 'pot' syndrome (i.e. the new roots growing all around the rootball as if they were in a pot rather than growing into the new soil). If however you want to do this 2 season exercise, you will have to hard prune the rose twice. Since you mentioned hybiscus have you tried moving one? They have a huge hellical tap root that goes very very deep like a giant corkscrew. They are beasts to uproot and sensitive after that. I have successfully managed to move a 10 year old one almost bare root and with severely cut back root system and this in the beginning of the summer season. It took a drip irrigator and a couple of seasons for it to recover but recovered it has. Since I did that I have no fear to move any rose although this is not something I practice regularly. Nik This post was edited by nikthegreek on Thu, Jan 9, 14 at 13:35...See MoreRose Musings
Comments (22)Ingrid, most of my twenty-two roses are less than three years old. Half of them are own-root bands that are one or two years old, or new ones recently ordered. My garden is not that mature yet either. I have ordered more roses last year and this year and have removed others to make way for the new ones. I guess I'll always max out at twenty-two. It's a good thing too, because I am overwhelmed trying to keep them all well watered, pruned and fed. I remember last year fretting about missing flushes of blooms because I would get home late and in the evening blooms tend to close. I only got to enjoy most of the blooms on the week-end. I'm doing everything possible to get to enjoy full flushes from my roses this year. Sometimes I think I should just have ten roses that I take care of really well, than twenty-two that I spread myself too thin on, but that's not possible because if I see I have the room, I put a rose there. There are just too many roses I want to try. Oh well! Juliet...See MoreRose Longevity
Comments (12)The oldest rose I've seen in my area was probably some Autumn Damask, growing wild on the site of a Spanish-era ranch, taken before that from the local mission. The plant thus dates from the 1800s, though it's a clone of one that might be at least a century older, and ultimately traces back to a sucker from the very first plant of R. damascena, maybe >2000 years ago. It all gets blurry when plants sucker. There are places in Europe where various garden roses have grown for centuries. Gallica gone wild on the site of an old battlefield or whatever. A biologist would say that the mother plant is long dead, but her clone has continuously grown on the same spot, making her "death" kind of an academic point. I've seen grafted plants make it to several decades in age, but only rarely. Most scion/rootstock combinations are only good for a limited while, and if they last over 20 years, they're doing well. In the end, you get one puny, sickly looking little scion atop something that looks like old driftwood. You can keep damp soil around the scion and hope it suckers, or try to graft it onlo a fresh rootstock, but otherwise that plant is done....See MoreWhat is the oldest tree on your property?
Comments (179)Mike, I guess if you live in an area where raking is needed or expected a Pin oak would be a pain, but, I am in the country and don't rake anything, just mow them. I actually go to the leaf dump and bag leaves and collect them to add to my Compost Tumblers, I have 2 of them. I also will spread leaves among my shade plants that I've collected from the leaf dump. Shade plants love that. It's great paired with shredded bark or wood spread under them. Nicholsworth, I love your yard, you are likely not needing much AC in summer with that shaded yard. My Pin oak has just gotten big enough to shade our AC unit within the last few years. BUT, I can't plant a tree too close on the South side of the house because of the septic tank lines being there, plus, I want to eventually put a greenhouse there. Kenswoods, there was another recent post on GW about a Cucumber tree, MAYBE that meant Cucumber Magnolia ? The tree that was pictured was a HUGE tree that really looked like an oak. It was said to be 300 year old Cucumber tree. I am thinking it MUST'VE been a 300 year old Cucumber Magnolia (?) It was really an impressive tree with great form, very "oaklike" to me. I will never rake leaves from under my trees, BUT, MANY people kinda HAVE to in cities....See Morezippity1
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