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How would you whack this jade?
Comments (12)I don't think any of these are large enough yet for a major trim. That will reduce the number of leaves (where all the food is made), and it takes the plant a while to recover. A plant left alone in strong light, a good soil mix, with proper watering, and light fertilization in early spring and fall, will probably grow thicker faster than a plant of the same diameter after a major trim. Trimming makes limbs look bigger than normal because new growth appears on older limbs. Plants I have wacked have all been 6-10 years old before the first cut. Your plants are much smaller and thinner than four year olds in my backyard. I think you should not trim at all, just concentrate on growing them well. Separate the plants. The root system of jades is only a few inches deep, so plant in shallow clay containers about 4 inches diameter. You could leave four together in a larger diameter shallow bowl and make a jade forest. Get rid of that awful looking peaty soil, and make your own mix that is at least 75% perlite, pumice, gravel, etc. Orchid bark and redwood fines are good for the organic component. Give them as much light as you can, outside if possible. You could play around with one or two, chopping down any green stems, leaving only older brown stems no more than four to five segments tall. There may be no leaves at all after your done, but come spring, they will sprout new growth, and by the end of the summer, you will have plants with relatively thick trunks compared to the new growth. You could even make a direct comparison of the trunk sizes between trimmed and untrimmed plants. That could be an interesting experiment. :) Brad...See MoreWhy is my thinking so out of whack?
Comments (25)That is so nice of you, to try to help me solve this problem. I believe damping off may have played a role on my first batch of seedlings...due to the fact that I kept it too hot, too wet, and cover on to boot. This second batch does have me puzzled...and I think (i don't know) that lack of fertilizer is the problem as well as lack of water. Since this thread started I began a twice weekly foliar-feeding program (weak solution) so far I have misted 3 times....and everything I have sprayed is turning a darker green, putting out true leaves, and getting bigger. The tiny seedlings are the only ones I lost yesterday...and pretty sure it was because the media was too dry. As per tons of advice I figured my media needed to be more porous than the last batch...so by golly I made it porous. Seeds sprouted just fine, but now I've made it too hard to keep up with watering. I need to meet at the happy medium. I am going shopping (maybe tomarrow) for some ProMix BX. I think you guys are right and that may be a great point in the right direction...for PH reasons too. I have also been faithful at adding 1 tsp of vinegar to each gallon of water, which bring the ph to 6.7. I can definately tell that I'm not leaving water spots on leaves nearly as bad. It may have gotten up past 80*F in my greenhouse yesterday, but not much more. I didn't take the plants out because the forcast called for scattered showers, and that usually means a downpour. Lately I've been able to to move them all outside for at least part of the day, so genuine sunshine (not filtered) might be helping with the growth spurt too. To tell the truth, I am quite happy with the week and a half improvements made, with all your help. And other than yesterday's disaster, I believe my greenhouse is going to start seeing more green. :) I'll try to take some pictures...if I can figure out to post them....See MorePeppers, Squash and Corn wiped out..............?
Comments (8)Crash, you may want to check out the Winter Sowing forum here, and their faq. Basically you plant seeds in little containers like milk jugs to make a mini-greenhouses. Then you leave 'em out in the winter weather; the seeds sprout when they are ready. I don't have the room or light to start seeds indoors, so I tried winter sowing this past winter. I had *great* success with tomatoes, sweet peppers, parsely, cilantro, and onion. They sprouted very early. My tomato and pepper plants looked so sturdy and healthy I didn't bother to buy any at the store. They were 7 inches tall in their milk jugs and it was still borderline early to plant them out in the garden, but I did, with some plastic-covered cages to provide some protection. All of my winter sown plants have exceeded my expectations. I'll be doing a lot more winter sowing this winter! Of course, our climates are just a bit different (laugh!), so it may not work as well for you, but it's so cheap and easy, you could do some in addition to your other plans. Just an idea! --Riff. Here is a link that might be useful: Winter Sowing forum...See MoreFighting weeds with..weeds?
Comments (2)Yes, you can fight awful weeds with less awful weeds. I have found Teasel to not be that hard to fight, I whack off the flower stalks, in 2 years, almost none re-appeared. Looserife is much harder, I sympathize with you. If the ditch lilies don't do it, maybe a short bamboo? Bamboos will not cross flowing water. I wouldn't recommend Fargesia, but there are short bamboos (Rice Bamboo, for instance, if it is hardy). If there is room, maybe Pawpaws? If the ground is not soggy, they will grow and spread by underground roots, making a nice grove of low growing trees that shade out everything beneath. Jeanne's suggestion of ornamental grasses/sedges is another consideration. Good luck with your battle....See Moreroselee z8b S.W. Texas
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