GROUND UP TO U: (vs. in-ground) Since 1980: about 7,ooo btuh [separately in a ditch] in damp clay as described below can be extracted from 52-deg earth with every 500 ft of 3/4" Poly-Black tubing and circulated easily [up to 5-3/4" pipe runs with a header to 1.1/4"] hdpe pipe 160 psi thicker sdr-9 www.geothermal-pipe.com www.flowcenterproducts.com on one 1) 1/6 hp (B&G pl 33) if the loop is ~ 35 degrees (chilled) by/on www.hydro-temp.com (ARKANSAS) a heat-pump, having ~ 18% methanol antifreeze by volume ~20% glycol, for usable(net) output per the following: if at a depth of ~6-to-7ft, lower piping runs (back-in-bottom-of-ditch-tightly-packed) x ditch length of 245 ft, up to 3-pipes in 2ft ditch and on the bottom of the ditch, up to 5 piping runs (2 ditches) on 1) pump 1/6hp damp clay soil, and returns back in same ditch as follows: RETURNS are on top at a depth of ~5ft (4.1/2 settles to 5ft in backfilling~) like a 'hair-pin over under design on side view... each ditch may support a "2-TON" Hydro-Temp, which is equal to others' 2.2/2-"ton" rated units that use higher than normal blower speeds, or water:water with over pumping to just get "high" ratings... LOOK at COMPRESSOR labels: they should have a 19,000-24,000 btuh compressor IF VERY WET, 52-DEG SUPPORTS A 30,OOO COMPRESSOR IN THAT DESCRIBED DITCH FOR RATINGS @ "3.0-TONS" YOU GET ONLY ~85% OF ANY COMPRESSOR ON ~34-DEG LOOPS... Directly GeoLoops : ECL's (Earth Coupled Loops) are generally producing only ~ 4,200 btuh at 40-degrees/avg and high volumes of ~ 3.1/2 gpm per 3/4"pipe and no antifreeze keeping things obove 38-degrees (ie @ 37 entering ECL, from loads applied/ with or without a heat pump... )

Jay, I love, love, love my screened-in porch. When I was a very young child and my grandparents lived on a ranch in Wise County, Texas, west of Krum, they had a screened-in porch on the east side of the house. It is their little country house, with its screened-in porch, big barn, white picket fence, and windmnill that I carry around in my brain as the ultimate wonderful old country place. I was 6 or 7 when they sold it and moved to town. Our first house, in Fort Worth, had a screened-in porch on the north side of it and I loved it, although it didn't get as much light as I would have liked due to the surrounding mature trees. When we moved here, a screened-in porch was high on my list of 'improvements' for our just-built house. I liked the back deck just fine, but it faced west and got really hot so I knew it was just a matter of time before we enclosed it, roofed it and screened it in. Our first year here, 1999, we built the chicken coop and fenced-in chicken run and the garden. The second year, 2000, we put in the tornado shelter instead of doing the screened-in porch because the 1999 OKC-Moore area tornadoes were fresh on our minds. In 2001, we enlarged the deck, added half-walls and a roof and used window screening for the rest of it and then I had my screened=in porch. Since then, it has been a project a year. This year's project is the potting shed with a new garden on the west-side for our granddaughter and a new garden on the east-side for me. My screened-in porch is always the first stop for plants coming out from the plant shelf to outdoors. I'll leave them there for a week where they get indirect bright light and some filtered wind, and then I'll move them outdoors for their daily dose of sun/wind. The tomatoes are fully hardened off and ready to plant. The peppers came out to the screened in porch about March 28th or 29th, so they are just beginning the hardening off process. I cannot live without my screened-in porch. It is almost as handy as having a greenhouse. I still have a cold frame on my 'to do' list, but we didn't get to it last fall or this winter/spring. The potting shed has been on my list since we moved here, and would have been done sooner if it weren't for the repeated bad winter fire seasons that have taken all our spare time during the gardening 'off-season' since 2005. This winter and spring has been our quietest winter fire season in years (knock on wood) so we've actually gotten some of the things on the To Do list started...though not yet finished. I wasn't crazy about spending all that money on a storm shelter in 2000 but knew it was the smart thing to do in terms of safety for our family. However, since I began using it as a root cellar, I now find myself delighted to have it! Dawn

I am not an 18 year veteran of the solar attic however I had a PCS3 from 2002 till last year. I have owned a Solar Attic system. I purchased it from solar Attic directly around 2002 I owned rental property so I had the advantage of having the maintenance people to assist me in the Installation. I talked directly with the engineer/owner/designer of the system. He was and has been very helpful over the years. As a matter of fact I emailed with him just a few day ago. OUR INSTALLATION We build a pan 4 inches deep and 6 inches larger than the PCS3 system all the way around. We equipped it with a 2 inch drain which we eventually put a cut off on in that we had a float switch system cutoff that was in parallel with the emergency cut off in side the PCS3. The reason we put a cut off and an additional emergency float switch was that the longer I thought about it having the system pump 25000 gallons of water into the catch pan with a two inch drain would not be able to remove water fast enough than it would be better to just have the system shut down so the issue could be corrected. We mounted the unit about 5 feet off of the attic decking to get it as high and in the hottest area as possible. That installation we did with rigid 2" pvc We had 2 90 degree elbows and a total of 5 joints that got the water out of the attic. In the beginning I had some of the same concerns that have been brought up here about a possible leak however considering the fact that almost all of the water pipes in this house are PVC as are 99% of all of the water pipes in all of the houses built in america are PVC and the fact that the water pressure in the solar attic system is as I understand it less than the pressure that your home water system has a leak is not very likely. OK, so here we go. We had to pump the water up 2 stories. In that this was a close loop system with strategic check valves our concern for the 1.5 HP (up rated) pump being able to move the water was quickly retired as soon as we started the system. No problem. Great flow. The quality of the product was good. The unit was well designed, thought out and put together. The only moving part on the system was a GE electric motor that could be manually adjusted from low to medium to high speed. This would change the flow of the air over the heat exchanger. I came set on medium an after 5 years of messing with the speed it is now set on medium. We used their electronic control system which consisted to a electric control valve and an electronic controller that detected the temperature in the attic and the temperature of the pool water. If the attic got to be 5 to 10 degrees warmer than the pool water the unit would come on and stay on till the water got warmer than the set point. We had system on a time and regardless of how the system was set we turned the pool pump off at 11PM and on at 9AM In 2015 we sold that house and the solar attic system went along with it. Our new home has a slightly smaller pool and an electric heat pump from heat siphon(325Kbtu) system. We are thinking of installing a solar attic PCS3 in conjunction with the electric heat pump. The cost to run the PCS3 is about $10 per month for the GE Fan motor. My electric bill for the Heat Siphon is $300 plus per month. As I am writing this the time is 2:36P EST in Atlanta Georiga. The outside temperature is 73F Degrees and the attic Temperature is 105F. At this rate we would have in our house that had the Solar attic system have turned the system on at this point. This would have started the heating process. Unlike electric or gas systems where the heat will start immediately the solar attic system will raise the temperature however this is over a period of time. If you installed a solar attic system in July and started it up on July 4th you probably would not see the water temperature rise quickly. I would say it would talk a week or more to bring the temperature to its set point. My current pool is a free form pebble tec with about 15,000 gals of water. With a solar attic system if it operates as my last system did I will have the largest hottub in the north Atlanta are. It can and will bring the water temperature to 95 degrees. My wife likes warm water. As I see it the biggest draw back is the price. If the system were priced in the $2000 range, for the basic system and $2500 range for the full electronic system this would be a product everyone would have like a salt system or LED lighting. A $2000 adder to you Aquilink system is small dollars with a great reward.

I also am very sorry I'll tell you something..a bit TMI. I have celiac. But back then nobody knew that much about it. I was a textbook for it since I was born; but since they didn't know they never looked for it; they said "it's probably nerves". I was in daycare/pre-school, from ages 2 to 6, right? Really long hours, to let parents work. So we were fed there, obviously. 4 times a day. The pre-school was considered one of the best in the city (I'm of a low opinion of it, for many many reasons, but hey, maybe others were worse), the food, consequently, was also considered the best. Yet I threw up after almost every meal. And since nobody knew there was a scientific, physiological explanation for it..well they were disgusted a lot. Well they had to clean it and all. And the food was good; so it seemed probably I'm doing it out of spite? Was ungrateful? In short they weren't happy about it. Understandable. I never complained; each morning would go back there hoping for a better day. Things indeed became better when I was around six (it's called a latent celiac period or something..corresponds with this latent age, pre-puberty, for reasons I don't quite know). But before that...I think I got it worse from grown ups than from the kids. Luckily I was considered a very good kid..I was also like ten times smarter than I'm now..it's been intellectual decline for me ever since lol. So I guess it balanced it out for them, the adults in that pre-school of mine. They tolerated me. Better than they tolerated kids that were less compliant for example..these poor kids-I think it was a hellish experience for them, this exemplary pre-school. (I must say teachers themselves were strict but handled it better. The teachers' assistants..yeah, they probably felt their salary didn't warrant all this ordeal. They took it out on kids, big time. Not everyone, but some were pretty..unkind. To put it mildly) But my parents, they were always there for me. Worried about me, not angry. Really, I don't know what I'd do if they would reprimand me for that and act all annoyed. It must be very hard. Someone needs to hold your back, right, who else then? If not your parents? But I think in this country and age, people are generally more sensitive to kids as individuals..especially if it's not something that they need to do on a daily basis..a kid feels sick in somebody's car-well I think it's not that rare, at all. I think the vast majority of people would be very understanding about it. They won't make a big deal. They'll tell their kids not to make a big deal. And I think they will stop to let a kid get some air, or whatever's needed. It doesn't have to become traumatic. And it most probably won't. He and you-you'll figure out the ways to cope. Whether it's looking the certain way(and avoiding moving one's head a lot), singing(can be fun by the way! I always loved when my kids sang together in the car), chewing gum, being prepared with Dramamine, maybe all of that. It will get better. And others will understand. Maybe they were/are the same in that regard too. It's not something rare. It also, as unpleasant as it is, doesn't require some very specific knowledge. Simple understanding and accommodating goes a long way..most people possess it.