Shh......I have a big beautiful bud! A baby Gloire de Dijon! :-)

oh lovely..... it's interesting to see this, as I have a bud on my bush exactly like that, same shape, foliage identical, yet I don't think I have any pink in the bud as you do... I'll check again tomorrow.... can't wait to see yours in bloom... do hope you'll take another photo at that time, and share...

I've never seen a bloom on my young GdD as yellow as Marlorena's pics. They always come out as pinkish-peach turning to buff. The hotter it is the more creamish they look. Never yellow. I wonder....

..I've just checked the bud on my plant, and there is a touch of pink in it, not quite as much as Summers though... be interesting to see how it performs when it grows up a bit...

Mine in warm but not hot weather. I think yellow / pink may be a phototropic trait having to do with lesser / more light. It does look like a Tea before the bud opens fully but then it looks more like an OGR due to the multitude of petals. Much 'heavier' than a Tea.

That's lovely! I can't wait for it to open. I was wondering about the pink color too, hope I have the right rose........ it's pretty cold here, 49F (9C) right now with high wind.

Make sure you post a pic when it opens. I hope the cold weather doesn't get it. If the rose is young don't be surprised if the petal count is low. I've seen single flowers coming out of it when young or stressed.

I like the hints of pink in yours very much Nik... strange how they differ somewhat... perhaps my next bloom will have a little pink in it.... I wouldn't mind that... but I like the creamy yellow too...

...I've got another of its offspring arriving this winter - 'Mme. Berard'... do you grow that one too?

No I don't. If my speculation about the pink colour being a phototropic trait and not temp related is correct, you might need to wait until June to see any on yours. I'd be curious to know.

This, taken today, is the first bloom of the fall flush of my young GdD, after a good 3 inch rain soaking and temps becoming somewhat cooler. Over the summer my young plant was water and heat stressed up against a reflecting southwest facing concrete wall and planted in a sort of restricted very raised bed, producing insignificant malformed single pinkish blooms. Please compare the colour with the early spring bloom posted previously. If it were not my plant I wouldn't believe it is the same rose. Still, no signs of yellow..

(the white balance is correct as the wall in the background is neutral)

Warning: Computer processed. Judiciously boosted the colour up in Lightroom to show constituent colours. (the white balance is not spot on in these as you can see from the greenish cast on the wall but you get the idea)

I think I am getting a pink bloom too..... took 2 photos last night.

Nik's blooms do not look like mine at all....but it's very pretty nonetheless....very Tea like isn't it?.... perhaps I shall see some pink next summer.... but looking at all of ours here, you wouldn't know they were the same variety, would you....?

Is it possible for this rose to have many faces like La France?

I will post more photos when the bloom is opened.

In the all-too- short time I had Gloire de Dijon, I found that there was a wide variation in colours, from creamy to deeper yellow through to apricot and pink and often all the shades blended in one flower. Austin's Queen Nefertiti does a similar trick; at present her petals are pale primrose with fine red edges, but by summer when the light is very strong, she is pure pink, then gradually as autumn passes, she develops more apricot tones. I keep coming back to this thread on a 'will-I, won't I' basis as I really do love GdJ.

Here are some new photos from today, it opened up more......

Beautiful, Summer.

Thanks dear! :-) I am very happy to see a bloom before winter! The temp here is high in the 60's, low in the 40- 50's. Somehow I got the same color as Nik's, he is in a much warmer place.......

It opened up today, in full bloom, it has lesser pink color now (I think).

'Somehow I got the same color as Nik's, he is in a much warmer place.......'

But with similar sun intensity, I suspect. Where do you garden?

Your rose looks very pretty although not typical in terms of the number of petals. It is due to the plant's youth I believe.

Summers...I like the colour on yours very much... so pretty... and quite different to mine... if I still have it... my dog dug it up yesterday... he obviously didn't approve... and I'm trying to save it...

Ah you have a gardening dog then! I have been 'blessed' with gardening dogs in the past. These two I have now are not of the gardening kind. Aris is only interested in food and Lara in barking at anything moving outside the fence.

Thanks guys! Marlorena, I hope yours is ok. Good luck saving it. You have a garden dog indeed. :-) Nik, I am by the Great Lakes in NY-Lake Erie and Lake Ontario. It's just interesting you got totally diff colors on the same rose in spring and fall. I will have to wait and see the color in spring out of my young GdD.

Summers you are at about 41deg latitude, I'm at 38deg but Marlorena is at 52deg, a real northener. Big difference in the light.

...I didn't know that would make such a difference.... but it obviously does... I feel really cold now...

..my dog hasn't done any gardening today...but I thought most dogs were that way inclined..

Thanks, Michaelg (@August 11), for posting the poem. I always think of it and hope that somewhere, somehow (like Greece and the Riviera) it will continue to be grown for poetry's sake. He uses the phrase "glory roses", too. Now, as for "Blue Bavarian Gentians" ... I had some once, not in my house, but by the front door of it, but I don't know if they were Bavarian

Ha! Marlorena, you're at about the same latitude as the southern Alaskan islands and the Kamtchatka peninsula, not to mention inner Mongolia. Can't imagine what will happen if the Americans switch off the Gulf Stream... lol

52nd parallel North

...well, we would have to migrate south, to somewhere like salubrious Greece... I wonder how many roses they've still got blooming today in....inner Mongolia ....

Marlorena, Like Nik said you're a northerner ! :-) I just checked the winter temp in zone 8 England, your winter can get down to -12C (10F), it's much warmer than here. We can get down to -10F(-23C) during coldest winter night. We should be warmer than you since you're farther north. :-) Still -12C (10F) is pretty cold. Is it too old for GdD?

Ah! I said northener, I didn't say 'a cold climate gardener'.. Summers, I suspect your summers (pun not intended) can be much warmer than Marlorena's. Cold is one thing, light is another..

England and maritime northwestern Europe in general is on a kind of 'artificial but natural life support' kindly provided by you people in America.. lol

Btw, I suspect some so called 'warm climate' roses do not do very well in England not mainly due to die back caused by lowest winter temps but due to too cool average conditions year round.

Hi Monarda! We have at least two species of gentians blooming wild in the mountains right now.

Summers.... my dog is more a risk to my rose than my winter... as for the -12C, I've had that here once or twice in the last 6 years, but it's not often and more common in Scotland or inland well away from the coasts.. last winter in my garden was -7C, 21F for a couple nights...

...where I used to garden on the south coast and south west of England, winter temps would rarely fall below -5c, mid 20'sF... and then only for brief periods... putting those areas more zone 9 for winter... our weather tends to move through rather quickly...
Fortunately the natural phenomenon of the Gulf Stream enables us to zone push.... and grow a wide range of plants here....providing they get good winter drainage, which is a key element... winter wet causes more losses than winter cold I think... so the northern latitude doesn't quite tell the whole story...

...and despite what Nik implies, I don't think Pres. Obama has any control over this at the current time.... unless we want to bring in carbon emissions, global warming and suchlike... then we might get frozen out... but we shall have good times until then....

...I bet you get a nice long hot summer where you are.... when do you expect the first frosts of winter?...

I would love to grow the 'Gloire de Dijon' of early promise, but am simply not interested in the one generally available. I suspect that it sported into an inferior rose from the original some time ago. Apparently this happens from time to time, just as we sometimes get superior sports.

Marlorena, Just got back from a camping trip today, talking about winter, we are going to have our 1st snow this coming Sat, Sat's low temp will be 32F(0C). I am going to spray all my potted roses tomorrow night and move them indoors soon, and cut down the grape vines. The summer temp here is under 90F (32C), we have about 3-4 weeks the temp is above 85F(29C), which it's too hot for me (humid heat). Most of summer days here are under 80F(27C). The "global warming " doesn't appear here, our winters are getting colder and colder, we call it "global cooling". :-) Hope this year no more 7' (2 M) of snow storms.

GdD has long lasting blooms! I came back from camping, the bloom is still there. My DAs don't last that long, that's a big wow! :-)

..it certainly is Summers.. and I'm glad you enjoyed your camping trip...what fun that must be...

...we keep being threatened a freezing winter...first with El Nino, which doesn't really affect us that much... and now Swans from Siberia have arrived early, meaning that it'll be the worst winter for 50 years... according to the media....

I wouldn't mind your few weeks above 85F...we barely manage one...

..look forward to some more photos in due course... this is a most interesting rose, even with its flaws...

Just RV camping, have a small Toyhauler, all the campsites were full at the state park(forest park), a lot of people, plus a big craft show (350 + retailers), fast food vendors..... I love blooming onions, I really hope you guys have that in England and Greece. :-)

Hope your winter won't be too bad this year.

My GdD from High Country Roses is doing great but too early for new photos. What about yours Summers?

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A beautiful bloom! I almost killed mine, it had die back after moving the pot inside last fall, canes turned brown, it became 6-7” tall. I am growing it with orchids and jasmine, it started to have new growth after orchid feed, but it’s still less than 10”. It’s not a rose, it acts like an orchid. :-)

Oh Summers! Zone 6a sounds like a challenge for your GdD. I hope it can have a nice warm Summer.

Thanks. Hope to see more beautiful photos of yours this reason, you have the prefect weather for it.

I gave my gift certificate from HCR to Sarah, for her birthday. I ended up with some unexpected roses, after ordering my gift certificate. She ordered ‘Gloire de Dijon’ from HCR. We’re both very excited about it! I hope she likes broiling hot Bakersfield, CA! LOL Lisa

Gosh. I had no idea there was so much trouble with this rose. I bought a Gloire band from Rogue Valley Roses 3 or 4 years ago and the thing just took off. I do nothing. It is in a really boggy spot and I have not babied it so it does get black spot. Which is unusual since we are so hot and dry here. But I'm in zone 9a in the California Gold Country and it's probably my best rose. It smells sort of like pears. Easier for me to grow than the Secret Garden Rose, which was originally found just 15 miles away from my house. Go figure.

@frontporchfarm I've had the same experience with mine. It's really I've of the easier climbers I've grown. It does get blackspot, but it continues blooming through it, so who am I to complain? I love watching it in the spring, because it's always one of the first to leaf out and bloom...and what blooms!

@John mine loses all its lower leaves, too. I also noticed that the flowers fall apart easily. But it keeps on blooming. It is actually at my old house that is now on the market. I've been going back and forth about whether or not to try to move it to my new house. This thread has made me think it's probably worth it. I wonder if it will transplant well? It's very large and about 8 feet tall along a fence now. Fingers crossed. Maybe if I put it in a drier spot the blackspot won't be as bad.

@frontporchfarm I moved mine (also in March) when I sold my old house several years ago. I thought it was going to be a disaster. When I dug it up, all of the clay soil fell off in big, heavy clumps, ripping off all of the feeding roots and all but two of the larger roots...which were not that large, maybe 6 to 8 inches long! I thought that was the end of the road for it, but I went ahead and tucked it into the prepared hole at my new house, kept it well watered and mulched with composted steer manure...and it went on to leaf out and bloom that summer like nothing had happened. It didn't throw out many large new canes until the following year, but it was fine, and each year it's gotten better. That was quite a lesson for me - I didn't quite realize how tough roses are until that experience. I only cut back what I had to to transport it, so there was a lot for those small roots to support, but there was no dieback. So my recommendation would be to throw caution to the wind and move it to your new garden. Surely you will do a better job of keeping roots than I did!

frontporchcharm,

Just make sure you water it A LOT for the first few months after replanting, regardless of the weather.

Summers I noticed you keep your GdD in a pot and I’m thinking of doing the same when mine arrives from High Country Roses, but I’ve been worried nonetheless about how it will do in a pot... is yours happy and big? The bloom pics from a few years ago are just so beautiful. Sheila encouraged me to go ahead and try it (thanks Sheila!!) and I am so excited but I live in CT and don’t want it to die in the winter so the pot seems like a good option if it works :-)

Thanks to this thread, I ordered a GDJ (also from HCR) to grow in my (small) greenhouse. I hope it does well. The pics of the flowers are absolutely stunning!

Natalie, I am growing roses in an ice hole by the Great Lakes in NY(zone 6a), only can grow teas in pots. I bought a few other teas last year, one of them is called Adam. You might like this one too. :-)

http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.221089

Thank you Summers for the tip on Adam. It’s breathtaking! I’ll order one! I just love that buff ruffled pink yellow coloring... sigh! I grew up in Buffalo and remember my mom bringing her plants in doors in the winter... I really like hearing how gardeners work around zones. I’m in zone 7 but will try GdD in a pot to be safe. And RoseLady — good luck with your GdD — I hope we can both share photos of our little GdDs this summer :-)