Yellow, Curling Leafs, Weak Stalks
Zachariah Daehn
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Leaf curl & Dark Spots
Comments (6)Sounds very similar to what I've been experiencing with my peppers and tomatoes. My tomatoes had severe leaf curl - they looked very pitiful, although they were flowering and setting fruit. My peppers didn't look quite so bad, but they were getting light green - yellowish (instead of a healthy dark green), and they had the dark joints you're describing. I did a home soil test (from a big hardware store), asked on this forum and dug around in some other places and ended up leaning toward thinking it was lack of nutrition in the soil and/or herbicide damage from my neighbor's lawn treatment. I top dressed with compost and a potting mix with slow release fertilizer (I used Miracle Grow), and I also sprayed with Miracle Grow tomato fertilizer. I did all that on Monday (three days ago), and things are really starting to look better already! I don't know if nutrition is your problem or not, but it was at least one of mine - feeding has made a noticable difference!...See MoreHydro Tomato - Leaf Curl, Roll, Drooping
Comments (12)Old topic but wanted to share my input. I'm growing hydroponic tomatoes (various strains) at university in a lab setting (indoors under HID lights) and outdoors in a greenhouse. In one of my greenhouse NFT systems, i recently had a similar problem on 1 tomato plant (total 9 plants that share the same res and tubes). But im gonna try to diagnose your issue by mentioning what others missed out on. 1 major cause of leaf curl is compaction of root system (i.e. roots are compressed or dont have enough space to expand). This risk is exacerbated in hydroponic systems that use tubes. This was the problem i had and had to replace tubes with square tubings that have a liftable top. Once you have access to roots, you must seperate them strand by strand (i.e. so they arent sticking together). In your setup, this risk will further be exacerbated because you filled the entire pvc tube with hydroton (right?). Remove hydroton from tube and place the plant in a net cup with hydroton. Nitrogen burns usually cause browning/yellowing of leaves (similar to sun/heat burn) and not purpling. Test your solution for each chemical if possible, or use a commonly employed aggregated measuring device that shows total concentration in ppm (dont let it exceed 2500). In my system, only one plant was affected. Coincidentally, it was the largest of all plants with the most root mass. I let another normal one grow to its size to see whether it would undergo the same problem, and it did. Viral and bacterial infections that cause leaf roll usually cause it to roll up. Same with the physiological roll. If your leafs roll down AND if your stems bend, this is caused by a diminishing turgor pressure (read: not enough water reaching afflicted area). Mist several times when lights are off (no photosysnthesis) and observe increasing turgor pressure (unbending). Or, untangle roots and remove hydroton from from pipes. I tested various growing methods including fully and partially submerged roots. They all work but a submerged root cannot intake oxygen; it has to borrow oxygen from another part of the plant (i.e. a root part that isnt submerged or above ground stem). This requires energy for transportion and isnt the most efficient (optimal) way for growth and cellular processes. Lastly, an airstone in the reservoir is useless unless the reservoir is completely airtight all the way up to the plant holes. Better to keep small airstones in the pipes right under the plant roots. Those that say aerating the res prevents bacterial development.. is false. If you dont have air in res, you will get anaerobic bacteria (they grow/accumulate slowly but acidify the solution); if you have air in res, you get aerobic bacteria (not acidifying but grow extremely fast). Most bacteria prefer aerobic environments for optimum growth....See MoreLeaf Curl Pic
Comments (24)A few thoughts, though I am late in the catching of this thread: 1. I disagree on the Boron deficiency claim. Or at least I disagree that it is so obvious. First off, the leaves are curled the wrong way to make that claim off a pic. Also, boron deficiency looks exactly like 3 other mineral deficiencies, so somebody is being demeaning without good reason. Boron deficiencies simply don't happen often by themselves in hydro. In hydro, boron is more available than in soil and is supplied plenty well in commercial nutes. 2. I think your pH is/was too high for optimum. 6-6.5 is optimum in soil. Not in hydro. 5.5 to 6 is optimum in hydro. Sounds like some of the advisors here forgot to pull out the right chart or were unaware that pH needs are lower in hydro than in soil. Likely the latter as I find many growers use the same charts for both by mistake. Easy mistake and even easier to grab the wrong chart if you don't know it by eye. Iron and Manganese, for example, become less available in hydro as the solution drifts toward neutral. Iron is virtually unavailable around 8 and up. In soil it is available all the way to 9+ (my charts don't go any further). Thus the importance of using the right info. 3. On pH again, I would like to point out that just because you may have a deficiency of a mineral it doesn't mean that your solution is deficient. It only means the plant is. Adding the mineral won't help you if your pH keeps it locked out of the root systems ability to accept it. That is a common mistake, too, in the ground. If you have blossom end rot you may assume you need calcium. Usually wrong. It's because the calcium isn't getting in the plant. In the ground that is usually due to drought stress that later causes mineral transport issues. Not because the mineral isn't in the ground. Point: don't assume a deficiency in the plant automatically means a deficiency of that mineral in the solution. 4. Tomatoes don't have an end of life cycle so soon. Remember, they are a perennial that is grown as an annual. They can actually grow another crop. Your browning could be lack of nitrogen and the browning of the stem could just be the tissue turning woody. Don't know without a good pic of the stem. Sometimes, when you go to a fruiting formula you deny the plant the nitrogen you used to give it. I do. This will cause yellowing and ultimately browning and falling off of lower leaves (clip them off before they die as dead/dying tissue invites disease). No worries. More will grow elsewhere. there are greenhouses that grow the same plants for 18 month stretches. Eventually, my understanding is that they stop producing as quality of fruit. I've never grown that long with one plant to verify this, though. My 9 month old tomatoes produced as well as my 4 month old ones, though. Unfortunately, the cat got to them and mistook my set up as a cat tree. I cried. Seriously....See MorePepper leaf curl (Pic)
Comments (28)Your Caribbean red looks healthy in the picture, minus the wrinkling. I sometimes have the same problem with the exact plant. I have 10 of them, plus 12 ghost peppers, plus 8 chocolate habas, and a few more different varieties of hot pepper plants. All and All I have over 70 hot pepper plants and have been growing for nine years and even crossed a few species. "NO" it is not a bug problem. Over the years growing hot peppers plants, I have noticed a few things that affect my plants. (1) How hot is it where you live? When a plant grows new leaves at night then gets hammered by very hot days of 100 degrees or hotter like in Texas the structure of the leaves deform especially with little humidity. The cell walls harden before they can fully develop. When I control the sun�s contact everything goes back to normal. People have the idea the more sun the better. That�s "BS" when I control the temperature in my green house below 98 degrees and the sun�s contact my plants get huge. Last year my ghost peppers got over eight feet tall and produced around 100 pounds of product. "Think about it" plants thrive in their habitats� "specific soil, Temperature, humidity, PH, and rain". If you plant them in the ground and did nothing to help them, they would be dead in no time, unless they are native to that area or live in same environment. (2) PH can affect them. Try to save rain water. (3) Try to stay away from over fertilizing them and over watering them. When you do excessive watering your plants will stop absorbing nutrients and they will stop growing roots, keeping them smaller in size. They need to dry out a bit to absorb oxygen unless you are doing hydroponics. I only fertilize around 4 � 5 times a season....See Morergreen48
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