so then we are onto canadian side? i searched for 'blue' and read all descriptions on grownotes for anthoflores varieties related to blue and nothing comes close either. so then i did a few image searches and found a couple of miniatures that at least have similar blue eye, but no frilled edges. that would be rob's lucky penny and penny ante. so i guess i should sit content that i can't find any similar standards. and then finally i saw a standard - it turns out to be an oldie . i spotted smth very similar to mine in the corner of the pic and then went thru the list below and it matched with 'favorite child' by cox/johnson: Favorite Child (7676) 02/28/1992 (G. Cox/B. Johnson) Semidouble white ruffled pansy/medium blue eye, rays, edge. Medium green, plain, quilted. Standard FAVORITE CHILD was released 2/28/1992 by G.Cox i am not saying that's what it is, but it's the closest - i am just having fun looking around : it focuses me. if i just looked by myself i'll give up much faster ;). had to attach the bigger pic. Here is a link that might be useful: bottom right on the pic This post was edited by petrushka on Wed, Aug 13, 14 at 19:50

Hi Lynn !!! All of them are ones that I cherish!!! I'm sure it is frustrating not knowing, but like others mentioned, you can start to identify later.. Put them aside and I'm sure with Bill and James around, they will give you some help... KEEP all of those beauties.. I also label with metal tags... When I make cuttings, I mark with a black marker. My DH and I were away for a week and my son took care of the trees... We had a strong storm here on the east coast while we were away and I had a few that were knocked over.. With my "eagle eye..." I noticed one that was knocked over and the tag was gone. I asked my son as " gently" as i could about the tag... ( without looking like a crazy person..). What happened to the tag? He just said it must be on the ground somewhere... I made a new tag and I'm heading out right now to relabel this one.. ." Lipstick". Good thing I can remember, since I was just looking at this one before I left. Hang in there... You will be so happy once they bloom!!! I only have one blooming now... My " Psycho.." Take care, Laura

Arthur, I hope I'm not beeing presumptuous in posting this but I took your comment to mean that you are encouraging orchid growers to post how they grow phals. I'm no expert orchid-wise for sure but most of mine (21) are phals that are doing great with my indoor set up for 3 years and bloom every year. They are all NOIDS. My plantroom is a bedroom and the door is kept closed. In winter a heater keeps the room at 75F daytime. I turn it off at night and temp goes down to 68F which is my home thermostat setting. Summer is more challenging. The heater is not used because temp goes up to about 80-85F and the room stays warmer because of south facing windows. In the fall, when outside night temps stay in the 60s, I leave the windows open all night so the plants can get that 10-15 degree temp drop for blooming. Humidity is kept at an ambient 50-75% with the aid of a humidifier. Light in the room is provided by several banks of T5 fluorescents (half of them are warm & half cool) because I also have several other plants in the room that require more intense light. I plan to replace those with (??? Haven't decided) as they die out. The phals are in an area of the room that gets about 1500 FC (per my light meter). There are potted in bark with a small amount of spagnum added in plastic pots with several extra holes drilled on the sides. I have to replace the bark yearly and am thinking about switching to 1/2"-1" lava with some spagnum added in after the plants are done blooming. I water them about every 6 days and mist them almost every morning (sometimes I forget!). A ceiling fan runs 24/day. I seriously considered building a greenhouse and moving them outside along with my collection of ferns but this area's temperatures would require both heating and cooling devices - that on top of the cost of the building. Too cost prohibitive. Besides, I decided that if it ain't broke don't fix it. Lol. My carnivorous plant collection on the other hand is loving Florida weather! Anyway, this set up, born out of necessity living in the north USA until a year ago, works well for me. I hope this narrative will help others who are considering growing these plants indoors. I plan on trying a few paphs as money allows in the same way.

Plant you are asking about has definite memorial rose characters, it will have species in its background.