a zillion maple seeds in the garden- help!
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Comments (5)I was also wondering, I have some matsumurae maple seeds germinating in high quality seed mixture all in individual pots that are in little greenhouses. I have them in my room and they are under a indoor plant light that provides enough warmth to keep presipitation on the tops of the greenhouses and good soil temp. What i am wondering is if I put my O Isami J. Maples in that same environment (when the cold stratafication is over) will they do well in that type of environment? The reason I am wondering this is because I read somewhere that A.Japonicum Matsumarae and A. Japonicum O Isami germinate diffeent because one doesnt require cold stratification. thanks again elijah...See Morewhere to buy japanese maple seedlings and seeds
Comments (4)First, it is important that you understand that named forms of Japanese maples cannot be grown from seed - even though you may collect seeds from a 'Bloodgood', the sprouted seed cannot be considered to be a true Bloodgood, only just a generic Acer palmatum. Named cultivars of Japanese maples are ONLY propagated asexually - by cutting or grafting - never by seed. Anyone who is attempting to sell you "bloodgood seeds" or "crimson queen seeds" is just pulling a fast one. Seeds gathered from these trees and germinated may indeed look like the parent plant but they just as easily might not. In fact they can look totally different as far as leaf color, leaf size, amount of dissection and even growth habit is concerned. So sorry, no such thing as a seed grown 'Bloodgood' or 'Sango Kaku' or 'Beni Maiko', etc. despite what may be advertised. It just is not done. It is possible to purchase grafted seedlings that should be true to name, provided they are being offered by a reputable source. One can also purchase named cultivars of scion wood which can then be grafted by you to other JM rootstock. Not sure about availability of these in EU or the ability to transport from here to UK - it is much easier to import/export seeds than it is live plant material....See MoreBuying japanese maple seeds
Comments (18)David, I think that you are confusing the issue as I believe the original post was about buying maple seed. I agree with your point that buying seed from sellers on Ebay is not a good option just as I do not order any Japanese Maples from Ebay. The issue of "unethical actions" has nothing to do with selling cultivar seeds or cultivars for that matter; it has to do with the person or establishment. I did not get the idea that Bill was looking to sow some cultivar seed and start his new named cultivar nock-off nursery. I have thousands of Japanese Maple seedling that grow in my garden beds each year along with the few flats of seed that I collect and germinate. It provides great pleasure and an inexpensive way to share the beauty of these trees with others that are not interested in named cultivars. I have never sold a seed, seedling or a cultivar for that matter and have yet to find one that I wanted to introduce after 17 years. You bring up the point of the "nightmare scenarios" that might already be happening from people growing seed and then people graft said seedlings. You are again correct; unfortunately with the popularity of Japanese and other maples, supposed new cultivars are endless. We now have at least 9 books on maples and three Forums on Maples. Vertrees states that from the early 1600s to when his first book was printed in 1978 there were over 250 cultivars. Now in 2007 I am seeing estimates of over 1,000 cultivars. So it took the Japanese about 350 years to select 250 cultivars and the modern maple enthusiast 33 years to name 750 more. The Maplewood Nursery catalog and the Red Maple Nursery catalogs were posted on the UBC Maple Forum at the request of others interested in some of my old records not for the issue of this post. Bill, Please send me an email and I will be glad to send some seed to experiment with. Ed...See Morecan norway maple produce selfed seed, or seed with sugar maple?
Comments (51)Interesting, the publication by Wright also shows hybrids with Acer platanoides (Norway maple) and Acer negundo (Boxelder maple), as well as Acer saccharinum (Silver maple) and Acer negundo (Boxelder maple). It would be interesting to see such a study replicated, and for a full growth cycle for the hybrids to take place. I live in Utah, and the native Acer grandidentatum (Bigtooth maple, close sugar maple relative) flowers at the same time as the invasive non-native Norway maple in our foothills at about 4,500 ft. Sometimes bees cross-polinate them, I'm sure of it when both trees grow near. Bees still prefer the Norway maple for its showy and nectar rich flowers. Both insects and wind pollinate them, but mostly wind because sometimes it is too cold for bees to work. I have grown some potential hybrids between the Norway and Bigtooth maple, from a Bigtooth maple 'female' tree, and the seedlings were weak, waxy/glossy, and lime green possibly from iron chlorosis. None of those made it after a week......See Moremaidinmontana
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