Stainless Steel Apron Sink: A Fad or will it Pass the Test of Time?
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Comments (58)It is ridiculous, agreed. But it's a function of being caught in this massive change over of technologies and manufacturing of home products and pretty much everything I suppose. Take oven cleaner. My first stoves didn't have self-cleaning ovens. Then those came along and oven cleaner wasn't really necessary. Now we have self-clean ovens that sometimes don't work well, or fry the electronics, or cause the enamel oven interiors to crack off -- even in the highest end brands. So don't use oven cleaner and don't use self-clean either! I know you've read those Wolf oven threads. They are doing reupholstery when they should be rebuilding and rethinking. And a majority of the engineers who are designing this stuff are mostly men while the majority of users are women. Due to media, we see high end looks a lot but need them at a better price. SZ, or Miele & Gaggenau are using sheet stainless but more affordable brands can't use it and to hold a price point. The coating technology is extremely good now (at least the faucet folk claim that) so they are coating and selling it as stainless and marketing it with cutsey names that sound to the average person like stainless with some type of specialized treatment. Yes, we are getting specialized treatment. Re the paper towel thing. I cannot imagine why a manufacturer would say no paper towels for the inside of a fridge. Curious which brand it is. And has the person who was told this asked for an explanation about why not? I know that from my interaction with various manufacturers I hear some pretty dumb things from them and some things that just aren't true. Again, microfiber towels work better than anything else I've tried, including paper towels, for cleaning in general. I use yellow and blue for regular cleaning and reserve the green ones for kitchen use only -- no cross use. I wash them in hot (140F) water or on sanitize (165F) if heavily used. Ain't no germs livin in those towels after that. And if it's not a washer where the hot water temperatures are precise, just saturate with alcohol before washing....See MoreHate Stainless Steel but need to order appliances
Comments (33)I personally think of mixing appliances like I think of mixing jewelry. Given the right setting, it could work, but usually... usually... to get a cohesive look, you don't wear a gold necklace, one silver earring, one copper earring and a rainbow bracelet together. You find the things that match and can pull together a whole look. Usually.... usually.... mismatched appliances... to ME.... look like someone is in the middle of a reno, or like me... had to buy a new fridge and DW (stainless), but hasn't gotten around to or hasn't the money to purchase a new microwave or stove. In the big picture, kitchens don't have to be magazine perfect. But usually.... if someone does a reno, there is a plan for everything to flow together. If function is as important as looks, and for many, it is more important, then by all means, get what works or is affordable when you can get it. But most on this forum or most who redo a kitchen, it is based at least partially on getting a new look. And like jewelry or outfits or whatever, one usually... usually... tries to coordinate. And none of the above is a slam. Just an observation. As for "tacky", I do use that word a lot, and I am WAY past high school. I've seen tacky. It does exist. I haven't seen it on this forum, though. But if I do, I probably won't say anything ;)...See MoreTime to test the topless, tetris-free kitchen!
Comments (38)One more need to know thing is your total storage. All your options. Seeing the zoom out picture enables this too. Thank you for posting it! Good plan. Very tight use of space. The deepest corner in the back of the utility room is where I would put a chest freezer, passive cooling, manual defrost. The flat surface it provides could be used as a landing pad next to the utility sink. This ensures it does not get used as a heavy object shelf or a long term storage kind of shelf. //Right now that corner is not efficient. Shallow shelves. You can still have lots of storage, too, in addition. With a big freezer, you now can be fully functional with less stress. Personally I wouldn't want to cook for large groups if I had only one fridge/freezer. I say that now because my life has changed now that I have TWO separate appliances for refrigeration/freezing. Also consider the peace of mind you get when you have two modern highly functional appliances. One can be serviced while the other keeps operating. One can take the overflow of the other. ETc. Although it is not a perfect match when one is a freezer and one is a fridge/freezer, still you get the picture. ----Otherwise you will have a mammoth in the kitchen. If you need more convincing, I'm sure people here can add a lot more points. -- Within a few days I can comment on your layout in the open area. Kitchen, DR, LR. -- About the rectangles: are they all skylights? Only one is labeled as a skylight. -- About "....the drain, which is currently located 3 feet up from the center of the skylight....." Please confirm what this means. If it's exactly X feet from the center, does this mean it is under the floorboards of the aisle? Inside the floor? Secondly, please confirm where the vent is. The DWV vent. The vent stack. The vent which the kitchen plumbing needs. How venting has been planned for. Where it is routed. -- ....See MoreStainless steel apron sink recommendation
Comments (10)“There are plenty of quality control and warranty reasons to stick with a well known American brand over an imported one. Buyer beware on country of origin on many of these brands that try to rename themselves to something British or German sounding for marketing reasons. “ I am sorry to say that is naive, as Kohler, Franke, and Blanco all sell Chinese imports under their own badges in their lower-priced sinks. I said “naive”, because people who don’t research think they’re getting an American, Swiss or German made sink cause of the names they see on the sinks. You will actually do better with a Kraus sink which has been getting great reviews on this forum for years, and is 16 gauge with a sink grid included. The brands I just mentioned sell their Chinese-made sinks at the thinner 18 gauge, and charge $80-150 more for the sink grids. If you can pay $1200+ for e.g. a Franke Swiss-made sink, or even more for a Rachiele sink, that’s great. But if you are not in that income level, and would prefer to pay ~$400 (or less with sales and coupons), you can get a fine sink from a brand like Kraus or Hahn. Regarding rusting - I’ll echo what @joseph_corlett said above, and add that another culprit is water with iron it, which is fairly common. The water dries, the iron shows up as rust spots, and the sink is erroneously blamed. Cleans up in a minute. Don’t use Brillo....See Morecookncarpenter
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