Hi scottspond, some how didn't think she would, Florida vs Manchester, no contest really ;-) The area I live in is New Mills, in High Peak in Derbyhsire. If it doesn't ring a bell, it's just past Lyme park, Buxton is about 2 miles away, Stockport 9 miles and Manchester 20 miles (all via road) Handily the railway station is about 5 mins away from my home, so trips to Manchester are pleasent through the countyside and don't require I use the car ;-) And in summer I get to hop on the odd steam trian, every boys dream. My Mancunian mates reckon I've gone "all posh" living here, as I was born and grew up in Fallowfield and went to school in Rusholme. Regards ChrisC.

Pure guess here. I'm in zone 4 meaning - our low temps reach -34 to -29C or -30 to -20F, in zone 6 low temps reach -23 to -18C or -10 to 0F. Using just plants, and NO MORE fish, you may achieve somewhat clear water eventually. If you have decided that you want clear water, fish and some plants, I would think you'll need some type of filter. As I said, you can go on-line or to a pond store and buy kits with everything you need. Or you can easily construct your own for alot less $$. Check out the Skippy site below. I made my own, the 1st one was a 1/2 whiskey barrel and kept my 300ga pond very clean. I now have a 60ga variation of a skippy/veggie filter without all the big drains etc. It would probably keep a 500 ga pond crystal clear. Most of these filters are easily modified to make a small waterfall or brook feeding back to the pond...for example... someone here (search skippy filters) made a beautiful one with a 1/2 barrel and an old hand pump pouring water out into a stream. This is my very simple skippy type filter (early spring, a month later you can barely see it 'cause the plants have grown, see below... (it also needs more rocks to hide the plastic). Oops, actually this is now my 60ga stock tank skippy/veggie filter (on the right) about 2 months into the growing season, also needs some rock work to cover the plastic, and now another month later you can't even see the tank for all the overgrown water cress. The 1/2 barrel skippy is farther back , filtering my 2nd pond. Most people use liner to created their waterfalls, mine happen to be ugly preforms for now :) BTW, that's my dwarf Sioux waterlily in the front pond with it's 1st bloom, the pond is 5'x5'x28". Probably one of the best way to get rid of green water is a "pre-filter" around your pump (if it's submerged). Simply set your pump in a bucket in the pond and wad some quilt batting around and over it, or if the pumps too big for a bucket just wrap the intake with quilt batting. Change the batting frequently until the water clears. The batting catches the algae particles. I do this for about 2 weeks each spring after I start my pond up. Some people change the batting daily, I do it about 2x's a week for 2 weeks, the maybe once a week for 2 weeks, then remove the batting and I'm done with the pre-filter for the summer. Results may vary! Whatever you decide, we can help you thru it. If you want specifics on mine you can e-mail me thru my member page. HEY, you guys, more suggestions!? Who's got the calculator? How many gallons is 11'x4'x2?' deep. Sarah (skippy site below, take it and make it your own, you don't need their bacteria, or their special media - pot scrubbers work great!. PS: I never clean mine:) Here is a link that might be useful: skippy site

To everyone......I have to thank CactusMcHarris actually for prompting me to contact Gweb direct following on from my comment in an earlier thread saying that I wished for an Adenium forum. Soooooo, on behalf of us all, 'A VERY BIG THANK YOU JEFF' for nudging me into action! I had truly forgotten that fact so I cannnot just sit here and take credit for this. I see the garden gremlins have been banished to the compost heap till later, so we may get to hear something in a day or so. Watch this space folks as we are now up to 46. Gill from the UK.

Rosewitch, England was definitely one of my favorite places I have ever visited. My folks took me there when I was 14, and I remember bits and pieces the Crown jewels, walking amongst the Stonehenge stones (roped off now, vandalism), Stratford upon Avon. Time for me to take my own 14YO. Im trying to think how I can get over there for a whole summer, LOL. Dlynn, I could have worked so much more. I didnt really look at night time stuff and there was loads to do. Greece: cant help you, but shoot Yasou a line, she went a few years ago. LOL Annie! Teresa, well go together. I wanted to explore more cooking and food shops/stores but didnt get to. Terri, here is more a link to Pictures of England, a website pointed out to me by Denise. I started it on Bourton on the Water, where we stayed for a few days. Thanks Sharon, I was actually thinking how can I even come close to posting her quality of travel guides, I dont do the pictures she does LOL. We might have sat at the same table in the Cheshire Cheeses dining room! Sawdust still there, but we didnt make it to the cellar. I missed a lot of the British Museum. It has changed.check out the new atrium. I couldnt keep up with DH and DS16. Afternoons, when I planned museums, I crashed. Next time! Pam, lots of people did more than we did per day! Theater every night, more attractions, I cant imagine. Gina heh heh yeah I need another vacation like a hole in my head. Speaking of whichDH has another week off in August. Nooooooooo! Kathleen, DH says he took an average of 200 pictures a day. Yup. Me, I just buy the post cards or Google the images, same thing (DARFC from the photo bugs here) Cathy, thanks for giving me the War and Peace moniker heh heh. Next time I go with CF friends! LindaC, I know. Im still exhausted. Speaking of the V&A, did you know there was a Dale Chihuly chandelier in the entrance room?