Well, my fresh batch of 1, 1, 1 ratio (flora series as well) didn't change anything and although they are growing rather large they still having massive curl so I just did a 2/1.5/1 ratio which I found recommended on another website. I also upped the ppm to around 1800 on this batch. It seems I'm going opposite of what you are :) Let me know if you have any luck with remedy since you're using the flora series just like me. Thanks... FYI I have a 1,000 watt High Pressure Sodium bulb for PLENTY of light. Also wanted to point out that these are "better bush tomato hybrid" sold by territorial seed company . This post was edited by jackblasto on Wed, Apr 23, 14 at 23:44

It is hard to understand just how bright outdoor "shade" really is because our eyes are so good at adapting. But you'd be challenged to provide any artificial light that bright. And of course the spectrum is perfect: it's what the plants evolved for. Given the described conditions, I'd say your plants are at a reasonable growth stage and that Josh and Bruce nailed the light problem. Let us know if you have any further problems. Good luck, Dennis

Sue, I replied to your post last night but its not here. Probably didn't hit submit. That's what happens when its late and I'm so tired. Anyway, none of those options address the problem. I've even checked out any computer settings I could find and so far nothing. Thanks, anyway. Dee, if anything can be done surely these folks will know what to do. Amazing amount of collective knowledge here and I really appreciate their willingness to help. One line? Yikes! Sandy

We have the cabs in our garage now and have measured them. Base units: 39", 18" (drawers), 12", 33" (cut in back for the sink), two 36", and a corner 36x36. Upper units: three 24", 36", 39", the fridge 36", the oven 30", and a 36" that is taller then the others due to some cubbies on the bottom of it. DH had a good point earlier today - our room isn't really 17 x 14. Only the part on the right side of the drawing is 14 across. Then the room gets cut in by about 2 feet I think, even if we remove the current pantry. 1 update - DH made it seem like when he picked up everything that he'd broken-beyond-using the corian counters, but he didn't. There's a scratch, a gouge, and 1 or 2 parts that broke in a way that didn't really matter. Point being, we have corian counter to use, including a peninsula that I'd given up for destroyed (it's gouged). I'll have to re-work that in. The original thought had been to have it coming from near the dishwasher. Oh, if only that little support wall wasn't there! We do have a small cab to the right of the stove. You didn't miss it, but it's the old one and is going away. We have about 26 usable inches in that space, max. Unless we manage to completely eliminate stuff pushing into the room in that area we can't put anything bigger. But I like your idea of moving the fridge over and working with that some more! We have only the 2 lower units that are smaller then 30". If we put either of them next to the dishwasher, then we are stuck on what to fill in on the other corner... I was thinking it would be easier to fill in the 18" next to the DW then try to arrange the other corner. But I could be missing a good idea there! I think > 30" is too big to cut down like that? Plus with the peninsula coming from this area I'll have to rethink it anyway. Maybe leave under open and put shelves above? If I'm not using the 36" for the island I could use them for the coffee area. Both would fit or we could do the little seat area! Not that I necessarily want to watch the neighbors back door ;) We are both somewhat handy. Inexperienced in this area but excited to learn new stuff. Well, I'm excited. He's resigned ;) I'm going to work on a new plan tonight, working under the assumption that we don't need those closet walls. Thanks for the ideas!