Where I live, the average is a mere 32 inches or so. This year, we ended up with 42 inches. Plus, it's cooler here than say, Oklahoma, although it can get hot. The weirdest thing is how dry this winter has been so far. By this time last year, and the year before for that matter, we were running out of places to pile snow. One of my kids moved to Olympia, WA recently. That locale seems to be getting plenty of moisture lately! I think 'effective precipitation' is really the key, as others have already pointed out. Overall, I think we're seeing fewer "three day rains", where it comes down slowly but for a long time. It's all big downpours now, with the accompanying runoff. But with this current drought, gotta wonder where we're headed for the next growing season. +oM

ARS 2009 OFFICIAL ROSE LIST SUPPLEMENT, JANUARY 2010 By Ronald Schwerdt 1-31-2010 REGISTERED/UNREGISTERED ROSES WITH APPROVED EXHIBITION NAMES, IN ARS MODERN ROSES 12 DATABASE. 1) ARS Approved Exhibition Names (AEN) Color Classification. 3) ICRA-R Recent Rose Registrations 4) Rose Magazine Registrations Lists are posted on the last day of each month THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL ARS PUBLICATION MODERN ROSES HYBRID TEAS: (HT) Ajay HT, pb, 2004 Akoya HT, lp, 2009 Alan Knott-Craig HT, ob, 2009 Amorosa HT, w, 2003 Angel Eyes pb, 6/2/2009, 9-2009 Anika HT, yb, 2006 Anna-Maria Distefano w, 2009 Annie Davidson pb, 2010 Ann-Mary Ritorto mp, 2009 Ao No Kiseki HT, m, 2008 Ao No Requiem HT, m, 2007 Aquarell HT, yb, 2009 Arc-En-Ciel HT, Rb, 2006 Arielle HT, pb, 209 Arindam HT, ab, 2002 Arthur Rimbaud HT, mp, 2009 Arun HT, mp, 2004 Ascot HT, m, 2008 Baba Jogeswar HT, m, 1997 Bahurupi HT, pb, 2007 Ballade Ddr HT, dr, 1987 Bel-Air HT, w, 1984 Black Cobra HT, dr, 2001 Canadian Sunset Rb, 1996 Carl & Cathrina ob, 7-28-2009, 9-2009 Carris HT, mr, 2009 Catherine Gareffa pb, 2009 Cha-Cha HT, R, 2009 Chambal Di, Kali HT, mp, 2009 Cheerleader HT, P, 2008 Chitrbanu HT, dr, 2008 Christine Lavson HT, pb, Christine Todd Whitmann HT, lp, 1992 Christmas Card HT, pb, 2006 Classic Calcutta HT, lp, 1998 Coffee Break HT, R, 2008 Companion HT, pb, 2007 Concord HT, 2007 Constellation HT, m, 2007 Cosigold HT, dy, 2009 Creamy Eden HT, w, 2005 Dannys Smile HT, lp, 2009 Dark Engagement HT, mp, 2007 Devi HT, dp, 2000 Dino De Laurentiis S, mr, 2009 Diva Swapna HT, pb, Dnynadeo HT, dr, 2007 Dolly HT, mp, 2006 Dvy Joti HT, or, 2000 Ed Yesan mp, 7/28/2009, 9-2009 Elizabeth pb, 6/2/2008, 9-2009 Emina HT, 7-2-06>>>>S, 10/2006 EmmaÂs Rose HT, my, 2004 Emotion Blue HT, m, 2006 Eve Ruggieri HT, lp, 2009 Filiae Regis HT, pb, 2009 Flirt HT, mp, 2008 Flora Red HT, dr, 2006 Florance HT, mp, 2008 Fortunate HT, rb, Fragrance of Fragrances HT, lp, 2008 Freedom HT, dr, 2004 Frenesie HT, yb, 2009 Friendly HT, yb, 2008 Garden Pearl HT, w, 2008 Geethu HT, rb, 2006 Gerri G. rb, 8/31/09>>11/10/09, 1-2010 Gordana m, 7/28/2009, 9-2009 Gov Kidwai HT, dr, 1998 Gracy white HT, w, 2006 Grande Dame dp, 8/31/2009, 1-2010 Green Romantic HT, 2008 Green Sahara HT, w, 2008 Gundis Rose HT, mr, 2007 Harrogate Rose HT, dy, 2009 Hawaiian Duke K. dp, 3/31/09>>>7/2009 Hawaiian Surprise w, 3/31/2009>>>7/2009 HelenÂs Trust mr, 9/11/2008 Hey Dey HT, op, 1997 Honey Trump HT, ab, 2005 Hopes And Dreams HT, op, 2009 Hoshi No Hitomi yb, 3/9/2009 Ithaca HT, mp, 2010 Jamuna HT, mp, 1997 Jaya HT, my, 2007 Jayanthi HT, mr, 2006 Joann Edwards ob, 3/9/2009 Julie Derwanz ly, 11/10/2009, 1-2010 Kusudama HT, pb, 2005 La Perla HT, w, 2009 La Rose Des 4 Vents HT, lp, 2008 La Rose Du Petit Prince HT, lp, 2006 Landscape HT, pb, 2007 Lemon & Ginger HT, ly, 2009 Lemon Silk HT, ly, 2008 Lescho HT, Rb LetÂs Celebrate HT, pb, 2008 Light House HT, w, 1994 Limoncelo S, HT, mp, 2008 Logan Popwell mp, 8/09>>11/10/09, 1-2010 Lola HT, lp, 2007 Lonely Heart HT, dr, 2006 Long March HT, dr, 1996 LoraÂs Dream m, 7/28/2009, 9-2009 Loretta HT, op, 2009 Lovely Layla pb, 6/2/2009, 9-2009 Lucifer HT, m, 2008 Ludwig pb, 7/28/2009, 9-2009 Macon Rouge HT, R, 2009 Madhulekha HT, m, 1991 Maid of Dignity HT, op, 1997 Malibu HT, pb, 2009 Manicure HT, pb, 2006 Mansij HT, ob, 2004 Martina Mondadori HT, pb, 2007 Memories are Made of This HT, 2008 Merci Cherie HT, dr, 2008 MichaelÂs Big Wadoo HT, or, 2010 Miss Satsuki HT, mp, 1987 Modesty HT, op, 2009 Moonshine HT, w, 2009 Moulin Rouge HT, mr, 2008 Mrs Davis HT, w, 1997 Mrs Talat Rizvi ob, 12/17/2007, My Friend HT, lp, 2007 My Hero HT, mp, 2009 Nagpur 300 HT, ob, 2004 Netaji HT, rb, 1998 New Herald HT, rb, 1999 Noble Birth HT, ob, 1997 Omoide HT, m, 2006 Open Sesame HT, mp, 1997 Orange Success HT, or, 2008 Outhime mr, 3/9/2009, 7/2009 Overlander HT, pb, 2010 Paradise Found rb, 2009 Phoolijhari HT, ob, 1997 Piano HT, rb, 2008 Pierre Cardin HT, pb, 2009 Pierre Tchemia HT, w, 2009 Pina Gareffa dp, 2009 Pink Tower HT, mp, 2006 Platinum Show HT, m, 2004 Preseren lp, 7/2009 Prince Jardnier HT, w, 2007 Radhanath HT, mr, 1997 Rangotsava HT, ob, 2007 Red Rose Ridge HT, dr, 2010 Reggae Sound HT, ob, 2009 Rishi HT, rb, 1997 Romantic Julia HT, dy, 2007 Rosa Gareffa ab, 2009 S Pandey HT, pb, 2004 Sachsenperle HT, lp, 2008 Salambo HT, yb, 2008 Samourai HT, mr, 2008 Sanctuary 2007 HT, w, 2007 Sarafina HT, dp, 2009 Sarina Ritorto ly, 2009 Scented Headliner HT, pb, 2008 SecretÂs Out HT, w, 2009 Seiga HT, m, 2009 Shah Alam HT, w, 2004 Shakuntala HT, mr, 2006 Shatabdi HT, lp, 2004 Shwetha HT, w, 2006 Silver Mascara HT, m, 2006 Silver Streak HT, m, 2006 Simply Samantha HT, dp, 2009 Snow Star w, 3/9/2009, 7/2009 Soleil Du Monde HT, dy, 2008 Souv De Baden-Baden HT, pb, 2009 Spirit of Ocean City rb, 1946 St John HT, dr, 2005 St MaryÂs School HT, mr, 2009 Stormie Popwell dr, 8/31/09, 1-2010 Summer of Love HT, pb, 2009 Sun God HT, dy, Super N-Joy HT, pb, 2009 Surina HT, pb, 2009 Swarnarehka HT, ob, 2008 Tblbeta pb, 3-5-07, 4/2007 Thunderbolt HT, rb, 2003 Tomliz>>>>Elizabeth pb, 6/2/2009 Toplesse HT, w, Tropic Snow HT, w, 1993 Tropicana HT, rb, 2006 Ushyoo HT, dr, 2000 Utopia ab, 7/28/2009, 9-2009 Variegata Di Barni HT, 2008 Viswakalyan HT, w, 2008 Viswakumudini HT, w, 2008 White Cat HT, w, 1984 White Perfumella HT, w, 2009 White Silk w, 7/28/2009, 9-2009 WilliamÂs Rose rb, 11/10/2009, 1-2010 Yorkshire Countrywoman w, 11/10/09 Young Rita HT, yb, 2007 GRANDIFLORAS: (Gr.) Atomik Gr, or, 1/27/2010 Dick Clark rb, 8/31/2009, 1-2010 Sky Dragon mr, 6/2/2009, 9-2009 VicÂs Refrain Gr, w, >>>>>>>>>(S) FLORIBUNDAS: (F) Agnimitra F, mr, 2007 Alabaster F, w, 2008 Allen Phillips ly, 11/17/08, 3/2009 Amber F, ob, 2006 Andrea Follies F, ab, 2008 Anne Graber dp, 7/8/2008, 9/2008 Anne Henderson F, ob, 2003 AnnieÂs Pink F, lp, 2008 AudreyÂs Prayer ly, 8/31/2009, 1-2010 Bailando F, mp, 2009 Barbara Davis dp, 8/31/2009>>>11-10-2009 Barbara Stack ob, 7/28/2009, 9-2009 Be Dont F, ab, 2005 Bedfort Jubilee F, ab, 2009 Black Country Pride F, m, 2008 Blues Harp F, m, 2009 Bossa Nova mp, 1992>>>>>>>(Pol) Chic F, dp, 2008 Changing Times F, mp, 1/27/2010 Colorific ob, 8/31/2009, 1-2010 Country Show F, ab, 2006 Cristina Lynne ob, 11/10/2009, 1/2010 Dandy Andy F, op, 1/27/2010 Dear David F, pb, 1/27/2010 Deep Impreion F, rb, 2009 Drama Queen rb, 11/10/2009, 1-2010 Elfi von Dassanowsky F, pb, 1/27/2010 Elie Semoun F, dr, 2008 Famosa, F , 2008 FatherÂs Favourite F, pb, 2009 FemÂs Rose F, dy, 2007 Field Of Fromelles mr, 7/28/2009, 9-2009 Fifi F, w, 2008 Free Styler F, op, 1/27/2010 Friends of Ashwood F, pb, 1/27/2010 Geroysun m, 11/17/08,>>Grace Mazik Gladys F, dp, 2000 Gladys Quine ob,>>>M/F, ob, 3/2006 Glimpse F, lp, 7/2009 Gold Rush F, dy, 2005 Gold Spice F, dy,2009 Gracious Gray F, m, 1/27/2010 Grande-Duchesse Maria Teresa F, pb, 2008 Guardian Angel F, Ly Harquest F, ab, 2009 Henrietta Brnett F, ab, 2009 Hoshi No Hitomi yb, 7/2009 Ichiyou F, w, 2006 IreneÂs Awaking my, 7/28/2009, 9-2009 Jane McGraths F, lp, 2009 Jean Cocteau F, ob, 2009 Jennifer Walters ab, 11/10/2009, 1-2010 Jonathan Tempest ab, 12-15-2008 June Bride F, pb, 2007 Kaoruno F, R, 2009 Kirameki F, or, 08 Klassik F, or, 1990 Laura Elizabeth ly, 10/13/08, 11/17/08, 3/09 Mornington m, 6/2/2009, 9-2009 Lemon Ranuncula F, ly, 2008 Lemon Sunrise F, ly, 1/27/2010 MaggieÂs Mauve m, , 11/10/2009, 1-2010 Maihime F, mp, 2007 Mamouche F, m, 2007 Marlene Rawlins mr, 11/10/2009, 1-2010 Merry Maker F, yb, 2009 Midsummer F, rb, 2009 Misaki F, w, 2002 Muskan F, w, 2002 Mutant Charisma F, ob, 1997 New Beginnings F, Op, 2009 New Life F, pb, 2009 Olivia Newton-John F, ab, 2008 One Another F, dr, 2009 PamÂs Choice F, m, 1/27/2010 Parbo F, ob, 2009 Paul Cottingham F, w, 2007 Penelope Rose Tierney F, pb, 1/27/2010 Petra Elyse mr, 3/31/2009, 7/2009 Pink Bouquet F, mp, 2008 Pink Medley F, mp, 2007 Pink Tink Tiara F, op, 2009 Precious Memories F, mp, 2009 Queen Of Hearts F, ob, 2009 Rebellin F, dp, 1994 Red Pearl F, mr, 2009 Red Ranuncula F, mr, 2008 Redeo Clown F, yb, 2008 Romantic Pepita F, pb, 2008 Royal City Rose ab, 7/28/2009, 9-2009 Ryoo F, m, 2006 Salmon Flower Circus F, op, 2007 Shakira Folies F, dp, 2006 Shino F, m, 2005 Shiro F, w, 1/27/2010 Singin The Blues F, m, 2009 Springshow F,mp, 1/27/2010 Striped Frau Astrid Spath F, rb, Sue Dickman or, 8/31/2009, 1-2010 SusanneÂs Rose yb, 8/31/2009, 1-2010 Temari F, ab, 2007 Tony Windale mr, 11/10/2009,, 1-2010 Trish Flint mp, 7/28/2009, 9-2009 Tzigane F, yb, 2009 Vanilla Bouquet F, w, 2008 Victoria Joy F, ob, 2009 Vodacom F, m, 2009 White Licorice F, ly, 8/31/2009, 1-2010 White Noise F, w, 1/27/2010 White Sugar w, 6/2/2009, 9-2009 Whiz Kid F, mr, 1/27/2010 Will Henry op, 3/31/2009- 7/2009 Yellow Changeling my, 10/12/2008 MINIATURES: (Min) Alysheba m, 7/28/2009, 9-2009 Amber Sunblaze Miin, ab, 2009 Ambers Sunset ob, 20/25, 2009 Amonogawa 21st Cl Min, ly, 2006 Annekin rb, 11/10/2009, 1-2010 Bara No Umi Min, m, 2008 Be My Baby dp, 8/31/2009, 1-2010 Becka Anne yb, 1/27/2010 Brent Alexander ab, 1/27/2010 California Dreaming,>>>California Dreamin Cerise Veranda Min, dp, 208 Charlie Amber Min, ab, 2006 Cioccofiore Min, R, 2004 Claire McCarthy mp, 7/28/2009, 9-2009 Claret Cup>>>>>>>>>>>(Pol) Cool Beauty Min, m, 2004 Electric Lady op, 3/31/2009, 7/2009 Festa Min, 2000 Forest Hale rb, 1/27/2010 Free Power Min, ob, Garcia Cl Min, lp, 1995 Garden Gold dy, 7/28/2009, 9/2009 Gloria Des Lawranceanas ** Harpeep Min, 2009 Haruno Yuki lp, 3/31/2009, 7/2009 Holly Tred Min, 1990 In Memory Min, 2009 In Memory Of Nathalie Jones 3/31/09, 7/2009 Kiss An Angle Good Morning >>>M/Fl LÂetranhe Min, R, 1996 La Belle Carmen Min, mp, 1999 Lemon Twist Min, my, 2009 Lille Marie Min, ab, 2009 M S Hope Min, ob, 2008 Maddie Kate pb, 11/17/08, Magenta Min, m, Magic Show rb, 7/28/2009, 9-2009 Maman Ichiko dr, 7/2009 Minelli Patiohit Min, 2004 Mr Gavin Min, dr, 2005 Nabaramani Min, or, 2003 Noir Min, dr, 1996 Orange Veranda Min, ob, 2008 Pink Veranda Min, mp, 2008 Pinocchio Min, yb, 2009 Pom Pom Veranda Min, lp, 2008 Purple Prose m, 11/10/2009, 1-2010 Red Gem dr, 6/2/2009, 9-2009 Renegade rb, 4/8>>>>17/25, 1-2010 Roma Min, mr, 2007 Rose Minimo Min, mp, Ruby Ribbon Min, mr, 2009 Scintillating Blues Min, m, 20 Sheer Silk Min, w, 2009 Shion Min, 2004 Simply Sally Min, pb, 2009 Smoke Rings ob, 8/31/2009, 1-2010 Sugar Rose Plum pb, 6/2/2009, 9-2009 Sundust Min, my, 2001 Sweet Emotion Min, ab, 2002 Sweet Heart Min, ly, 2000 The Lighthouse dy, 8/31/2009, 1-2010 The North Stars pb, 3/9/2009, 7/2009 The Streak yb, 1/27/2010 The White Lady of Rufford yb,7/2009 Tom Delahanty pb, 5/11/2008 Velvet Kordana Min, 2007 Violet Cloud Min, m, 2009 Yametsu-Hime Cl Min, pb, 2008 Yukiko Cl Min, mp, 1991 MINIFLORA: (MinFl) Abby Leonard rb, 7/2009 All American Girl>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>All-American Girl, mp, 9-10-2008, 6/6/2009, 7/2009 Baldo Villegas w, 7/2009 Barbara yb, 7/28/2009 Bran New Girlfriend m,>>>>>>>> >>>9/10/2008>>Brand New Girl Friend Byzantium ly, 7/2009 Chubby Hubby yb, 7/28/2009 Coat Of Menny Colors m,>>>>>>>> >>>9/22/2008>>>Coat Of Many Colors Cole Miners Daughter pb, 9/22/2008>>> >>>Coal MinerÂs Daughter Daddy Frank dr, 7/28/2009 Flower Power Gold dy, 17/25 Flower Power Gold M/F, dy, 2009 For Mickey dp, 4/24/2009 Ghost Rider M/F, 2009 Gladys Quine Min Fl, ob, 3/2006 Grace Mary Rose ab, 8/31/2009, 1-2010 Grand Old Opry yb, 8/31/2009, 1-2010 Janet Inada ob, 11/10/2009 Judie ab,, 7/28/2009 King of the Road M/F, yb, 1/27/2010 Kiss an Angel Good Morning m, 7/2/2009 Kristen Jennifer pb, 11/17/08, Lee Greenwood American Patriot >>>Lee >>>GreenwoodÂs American Patriot Lesley-Anne Cl, mr, 11/10/2009, 1-2010 Lillian Dauby w, 1/27/2010 Lo & Behold dy, 3/31/2009>>>>>>> >>> Lo And Behold, 7/22/2009 Lynn m, 7/28/2009 Mamacita m, 11/10/20090, 1-2010 Mikayla Danille w, 1/27/2010 MontyÂs Joy m, 6/6/2009 Mrs Zakia Mahmood Rizvi yb,>>>3/9/2009 Nan McKibben my, 1/27/2010 Nashville Music yb, 1/27/2010 Paula Smart rb, 11/10/2009, 1-2010 Powerhouse or, 2009 San Diego Sweetheart ab, 3/31/2009 Shawn Sease pb, 4/8, 4/25/2009 Spirit Dance ob, 11/10/20, 1-2010 Step Up dp, 7/28/2009 Supernatural ab, 6/2/2009 Tabasco Cat or, 7/28/2009 The White Lady Of Rufford yb,7/2009 Thelma Lou M/F 2009 Wel0409 >>>Blue Suede Shoes LARGE FLOWERED CLIMBER (LCl) Bellavist LCl, lp, 2007 Charles Pugh LCl, 2009 Chocolate Sunday LCl, 20-22, 2009 Dancing Sunset yb, 1/27/2010 Gardeners Glory LCl, dy, 2009 Giardina LCl, mp, 2009 Helenia LCL, my, Hommage aÂSoupert &, Notting m, 2007 King Rose LCl, Orange Crush LCl, or, 2009 Perennial Pink LCl, mp, 2008 Perennial White LCL, w, 2008 Pride Of Venus LCl, ly, 2008 Purple Splash m, 8/31/2009, 1-2010 Randilla LCl, my, Sunsational LCL, Mr White Star LCl, w, 2009 POLYANTHA: (Pol) Bossa Nova Pol, mp, 9/2004 Claret Cup rb, 1962>>>9-2009 Gay Vista lp, 1957>>>9-2009 Karez Pol, mp, 1996 Pookah dr, 6/2/2009 Sequoia Greenfield w, 1/27/2010 Shiyoo Pol, m, 2000 Shugyoku Cl Pol, or, 2007 Tissue w, 1/27/2010 Tooth Fairy w, 1/27/2010 CLASSIC SHRUBS: HYBRID MUSKS (HMsk) De Tous Moi ** HMsk, w, Dinky HMsk dp, 7/2009 Hedi Grimm HMsk, w, 3/9/09,7/2009 Jean Stephenne lp, 7/2009 P.S. I Love You HMsk, w, 3/9/2009 Rivers Musk Cluster ** HMsk, 1846 RobertÂs Ondrous Ruthie mp, 3/9/09, 7/09 White Erfurt HMsk, w, 1931 MODERN SHRUB: (S) Abbotsford S, pb, 2005 Ambassador Nagomi S, Archbishop Desmond S, mr, 2008 Armand Ventilo S, dp, 2009 Ayanishiki S, yb, 2006 Belle DÂEspinouse S, rb, 2006 Bonita dr, 7/28/2009, 9/2009 Bridesmaid Bouquet pb, 4-8, 2008 Christophe De Combejean S, rb, 2005 Earl Parsons rb, 7/28/2009, 9/2009 Eleanore Cruse S, 2007 Elegant S, lp, 2000 Elodie Gossuin S, m, 2008 Emina S, rb, 10/2006 Emma G yb, 7/28/2009, 9-2009 Erika Hofmann S, ab, 3/31/2009 Famy S, 2004 Florenzia S, rb, 194 Frauke S, pb, 1993 Fun Jwan Lo ** S, w, Gateway S, mp, 2006 Gay Vista lp, 1957>>>>>>>>>>(Pol) Generation Jardin S, dp, 2009 Genesis S, ob, Gerald Van Der Kamp S, 2005 Helga S, w High Voltage my, 2009 Hikoboshi S, dr, 1997 Jabulani S, ob, 2009 Janet Inada S, ob, 2009 Jean Geldenhuys S, w, 2009 Kashmir dr, 2009 Konig Etzel S, w, 1990 La Jago S, yb, 2006 Larissa S, lp, 2009 Le Plessis Robinson S, mp, 2007 Lemon Splash S, my, 2009 Limoncello my, 8-10, 2009 LoverÂs Blush S, pb, 2009 Merry Melody S, pb, 2009 Miracle On The Hudson S, mr, 7/2009 Nelson Montfort S, ly, 2009 Night Ryder, pb, 9/08>>>dr, 6/2/09, Nina S, ly, 2008 Orange Etoile S, ob Orchid Legacy S, m, 2008 Palma Guimond S, rb, 1/27/2010 Parky S, w, 2009 Paso Doble S, mr, 2009 Passion Of St Peters S, rb, 2009 Paul Brooks S, 2006 Peaceful Habitations>>>Meredith Bohls Peggy Stevens S, dp, 1/27/2010 Pink Home Run S, dp, 3/31/2009, 7/2009 Pink Lady S, mp, 2008 Pink Sakurina S, mp, 2006 Pink Supreme Flower Carpet S, mp, 2007 Pinnatifide ** S, mp, Precious Hearts S, rb, 2001 Premier ** S, w, 1866 Princess Dawn S, m, 3/9/2009 Red Medley S, mr, 2008 Roisin Ruddle S, ob, 2004>>>Ron Ruddle Romantic Ruffle S, Lr, Saffron Summer S, my, 2009 Saint Benedict w, 7/28/2009, 9/2009 Sandra S, op, 2000 Sir John Betjeman S, mp, 7/2009 Snow Star S, w, 2009 Snowcup S, w Soft Knockout S, lp, 2008 Stadt Rom S, mp, 2006 Striata ** S, rb, Surprise S, mp, 2006 The Hever Castle mr, 7/28/2009, 9/2009 The Wainwright Rose S, w, 2009 Tomopel pb,>>>9/2008>>>dr, 6/6/09 University of Pretoria S, m, 2009 VicÂs Refrain S, w, 1/27/08, 5/2008 White Patio S, w, 2008 Wichtel S, w, 1994 William P J McCarthy mp, 7/28/2009, 9/2009 Wilplan S, 2005 Wilsue S, mr, 2004 Wisley 2008 S, lp, 7/2009 Young Lycidas S, dp, 7/2009 Yume Otome S, pb, Zaide S, mp, 2009 HYBRID KORDESII (HMor) Nouvelle France pb, 11/10/2009, 1-2010 HYBRID wICHURANA (HWich) Guirlande Rose HWich, mp, 3/9/2009, 7/2009 OLD GARDEN ROSES MISCELLANEOUS OGR: (Misc. OGR) WilsonÂs Worchester w, 4/7/2009 MOSS & CLIMBING MOSS (M & CL M) Joy Singer M, m, 9-11-2008 Treasure Trial M, op, 7/2009 HYBRID PERPERUAL (HP) Adesugata Hp, 2002 Babel Babylon Hp, ob, 2008 CENTIFOLIA (C) Gerda Nissen C, Mr HYBRID CHINA HCH Yue Yue Fuen Ch, mp, Patron DÂOrleans Ch, Dr HYBRID HGAL (HGal) Poitevine G, mp BOURBON (B) Madame Zazu B,mp,1/27/2010

In cased you missed the map that was shown on TV for days following the 2004 election, most states are shaded red and only a few are shaded in blue. The blue states are shoved off into a corner and they are very expensive places to live and not overloaded with opportunities. So if you are like me, you have to find a place where you can enjoy the what the area has to offer and not let the political views of the majority get to you. The OP's viewpoints seem somewhat libertarian and then somewhat republican but who cares? Nobody. You can move to just about anywhere and nobody will shove their political views down your throat. Not even here do they do that. If I wanted to I could meet up with anoy political party that interested me but since I am not into politics I will go back to just enjoying the scenery and low cost of living, being close to good shopping and relatively OK driving distance to the big urban core where I can walk around for a few minutes or have a nice meal, feel like I stepped into the twilight zone then hop in the truck come back home where you can have a big property with horses and fire guns and play cowboys & indians and do whatever it is you please til the cows come home. The Knoxville area does come across as an area where this would be possible too so I'd say look at Knoxville.

Some of the comments hit a nerve. I have a 13 yo DD, 12 yo DS, 9 yo DS. When we travel using hotel rooms the older two choose to share a bed and the younger is on a blow-up. No one likes to sleep w/ the 9 yo because he squirms and is all over the place. It's their choice, we're all in there together, and nothing creepy is happening. The bathroom is there for undressing and the kids don't shower together. Drawing a line there makes more sense. I expected someone to share a bed, but I let them choose the arrangement. I agree with Pal. Creepy is assuming incestuous behavior is likely between siblings. If that's true than sharing a room, which my boys do, isn't appropriate, either. My sister and I shared until I moved out for college. My older relatives told stories about 3-4 kids sharing a bed "back in the old days" because they only had so much room and furniture.