When does everyone start their squashes and cucumbers from seed?
jenandwya
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do you start cucumbers and squash inside, or direct seed?
Comments (25)Since I save seeds from most of my vegetables in a short-season climate, I try to get them started as early as possible. For cucurbits, as already mentioned, you can't keep them indoors long, unless you have a light source as intense as sunlight. I start them maybe 2-3 weeks before the target date for direct seeding (depending upon species), and put them outside in full sun as soon as they germinate. If the weather cooperates, they get transplanted as soon as they have their first true leaf. The main advantage is better & faster germination than I might get outside, with fewer losses due to slugs & bugs. This also allows me to get the plants started on time if the soil is late to dry out in Spring (which has been a common problem in recent years). I've had great luck using peat strips for squash, cucumbers, bitter melon, and various other gourds. Since the entire pot is planted, there is no root disturbance. But if the weather warms up early enough, I will sometimes direct seed. In warmer climates than mine, direct seeding should be the preferred method. The decision of whether or not to start something as transplants may depend upon species - and even variety. I will direct seed acorn squash (which has a short DTM) but usually start the long-DTM winter squashes as transplants. Gourds that are eaten immature (cucumbers, summer squash) should usually be direct seeded unless you intend to save seed. True gourds (not the warted ornamentals, which are related to zucchini) require warmer soil temps & often have long germination times, so they can benefit from being started indoors. There is one other advantage to starting squash & cukes as transplants, though. I've gardened in locations where some years, cucumber beetles were so bad that they would destroy seedlings as soon as they emerged. I would grow plants as seedlings, transplant them into the garden, and immediately cover them with floating row cover. The row cover needed to be removed when flowering began, to allow pollination... but it gave the plants a chance to get established. I've never tried floating row cover over seeds, because I assumed it would cool the soil & delay germination... but for those with serious bug issues, it might be worth trying....See Morecan i start a new cucumber vine from an existing vine
Comments (1)I don't know about indefinitely -- they tend to fade out after a while due to diseases. If you keep them well sprayed for fungal diseases, it helps a lot to keep them going. Also, you have to be really consistent in picking all of the cucumbers off so they don't go to seed, as this tells the vine it has accomplished its purpose of reproduction, and so it can die now. I don't know about cucumbers, but squash and pumpkins will root at the leaf nodes in moist soil. It's surely worth a try. You should try layering it by burying a section of the vine including a couple of leaf nodes in moist soil in a pot. Dusting the buried section in rooting hormone powder (available at most any garden center) prior to covering it with soil might help promote rooting. If it does root from the nodes, after a couple of weeks when it's sufficiently rooted, you can sever the stem and let the new plant be on its own. I don't know how successful you would be with indoor cucumbers -- if the light is sufficient, probably would work, but you'd have to provide a LOT of intense light, probably artificial light, since I suspect your autumns are pretty gloomy in NY, just like mine are in Michigan, and days get VERY short soon. If it does work, you'll have to hand pollinate the flowers with an artist's brush to set the cucumbers. Let us know how it works out....See MoreWhen does everyone start?
Comments (3)Many people in warmer zones start planting on the winter solstice, kind of a celebration. When you start depends on your zone and the kind of seeds you have. Some need longer stratification than others so you would start with them. If we have mild weather, i start in late December or early January. Otherwise i wait for a milder spell to start. The bulk of my sowing is done during March break because i have the time then....See MoreWhen do u start potting seeds and what r u planning to seed?
Comments (21)Jenfm, I've always thought about the dwindling daylight hours effects on our fall/winter vegetable gardens. Not just fewer hours, but less intensity as the plants grow. Then there's the seasonal lag through January before things really start the upturn toward spring. It's no wonder the largest pumpkins and squash grow in Alaska and Siberia. Unlimited sunlight on those large leaves! Along with the soil sterilizing deep freeze every winter. I've never had luck with summer squash here. They come up and flower fine, but immediately after flowering the small fruits rot or vine borers get into the stems. I'm going to order some of those Tromboncino squash seeds very soon. Ill, did you say you planted that in the fall? Cucumbers do only slightly better. I don't think they handle humidity well at all (mildew) and get the same bugs as the squash. I'm planning to start some cukes in late Dec to take advantage of the dry season and lengthening days. In a large pot with a trellis. I think you can sow amaranth anytime of year. Once it's established and you let one go to seed it pops up everywhere. I really see the best growth in the spring. It goes to seed more quickly later summer and fall. I've found the red one does better for me. The green one must be very tasty though. It's always eaten up in the garden, by little caterpillars. I love nasturtiums among the veggies too. They pop up every fall like magic....See Morejenandwya
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