24" refrigerator. Liebherr, Fagor, LG, etc?
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Comments (20)I would rather have the condensation drops on the back than what happened with my previous unit. In it the condensation dripped into a pan in a concealed space in the back of the freezer. The pan was always getting frozen and the condensation would then run down from the freezer all over every item in the refrigerator and end up on the bottom, then gush out when you opened the door. After taking the entire freezer insides apart I learned to just shut the unit off for several hours to fix this problem. Every once in a while the water would carry a little particle down the inside drain pipe and clog it. Again water overflow -we are talking about a mess. So at least with the condensation on the back I can see it and know what is going on. I don't have the 24 but have not found any temp variation between the 2 thermometers I keep in the unit but I will try to pay closer attention - not sure I can catch it during the defrost. The 30's inch does have a door stop you can set. It is not obvious but my installer set it and I think there are instructions in the manual to do so....See MoreRefrigerator Insanity, LG or Miele
Comments (13)"LG - they look flashy, lots of really thoughtful bells and whistles, but it's as if the engineers forgot to consider LONGEVITY when they came up with their designs" You know, I find this logic really surprising. Let's say, you like all the other aspects of LG. Is Miele really going to work 6 times longer? Technically it could. My parents had a fridge for 40 years. However, do you want a fridge for that long? First of all, if you move, will you take it with you? In some states, people do take them while in some others, the fridge is part of the house and stays. But even if you do take it with you, large appliances often do not survive the move and never function the same. And what about ever changing technology? I am sure something more energy efficient and possibly better in other ways is "just around the corner". :-) For example, I really wanted a Miele washer 10 years ago but bought a Whirlpool Duet pair instead for several reasons, one of them being a larger capacity (it was right before Miele started making full-size washers for the US market). The Duet still works though the washer may be slowly dying. The new models have a lot of nice options unavailable 10 years ago, like steam, etc. I will not feel the least sorry replacing a $1200 washer after 10 years by something more advanced but I would if I paid $12K for it. However, I do not have disposable income. If I did, I probably wouldn't hesitate to get something I really loved, no matter how expensive. I am not saying OP should get an LG. I too have heard reports of service problems. But if it has a reasonable longevity expectation, I wouldn't spend 6 times more just in hopes of something working longer - unless it is a fully integrated unit and I know I will not be able to match the panels down the road because I am using some exotic wood or something. BTW, there are reports of problems with Miele as well. Just my two cents......See More24' fagor refrigerator
Comments (5)joolze, I'm in the same boat and everyone on this site has been so helpful. Here's what I've found out in my research so far: I've read that the Fagor can be a bit noisy (especially at first), and the sides aren't Stainless. There is also a nice looking 24' GE refrigerator, but it doesn't have SS sides, no good place to store ice trays (don't know if that's an issue for you). I'm leaning toward the Liebherr. It's a much higher price point, but there is much more storage, it's extremely quiet and you can get it with an ice maker. 18" dishwashers: There are nice dishwashers made by GE (Profile and Monogram), Bosch and Miele. For me, this was a bit of a toss up, but I'm leaning toward the Miele, because of the cutlery tray. Ranges: There seems to be very little middle ground in 24" ranges. You can go Summit, Premier or Avanti. In the middle, there is Delonghi, Smeg and Fisher & Paykel (I was concerned about quality on all of these (and that F&P would go out of business). Then, there's the Bertzzoni, Blue Star, Five Star, Viking, American Range and Viking (I may have missed a couple). The largest ovens are in the Blue Star and the American Range, followed by Viking. I think I will likely go with the Bertazzoni. The oven is a little smaller than I like, but it's cabinet depth (which, for my galley kitchen is a huge plus) and I don't think I can justify spending so much more on a Blue Star or American, because I just don't cook that much. Hope that helps....See More24' wide refrigerator/freezers: Liebherr, Northland, any others?
Comments (6)I got the LG. It's quiet. I like the heat near the door gaskets. In the kitchen forum someone posted an image of his LG inside cabinetry. I got an extra door bin. The door held a lot before, and really holds a lot now. These door bins are reversible. You can turn them around and reattach them. One way you get a low divider wall in the front, better for taking things out more easily, great for the door bins higher up. The other way you get a high divider wall, better in terms of psychology alone. Storing things without seeing too much of them. Also in terms of psychology, it makes you feel the things stored there are more likely to be held well in case anyone ever tried to make them fall. Never happens. Just a psychology. Nothing ever flops over and falls. And the door opens easily so nobody ever has to give it a yank. Also, with the handle being where it is, it makes people use a finger or two instead of yanking with their shoulder. Little things like this make a difference. The freezer has three drawers and an ice cube tray. I fit large frozen pizzas in the freezer drawers. Also, I could remove any one of the drawers if I wanted to have a bit more space temporarily. Never happens. What was the best thing before buying it? The number of shelves and the options given to raise or lower them. Also, two separate veggie drawers. Two is best, because some organics rot when placed with certain others (there are two kinds, so two drawers keeps Type A from Type B) The meat drawer is a good thing to have. I was surprised how much difference it made in the fridge's "smells" when meat and sausages have a separate container to hold them. I also got a drawer fridge, btw. We now have too much fridge volume available, so we deliberately go hunting for large amounts of edible organics at farmers' markets. I think the air movement in my LG is good. It's minimal. It's not "Passive cooling" but almost. Better for foods. Previously my old fridge moved air too much and this caused stuff to dry out, rot, get freezer burn, etc. This has never happened in my new fridge. Things keep a long time. Leafy greens are still leafy greens after a week, or two, or three. Cheese doesn't get a hard dry crust on it where the plastic wrap is opened. Soft fruit like peaches still look good after a long time; they don't shrink and shrivel up. After researching this subject (refrigeration and the fridge business) for while, I'll say that I would trust Blomberg to have good product. From what I know of European, Asian and American fridge manufacturers. Each of the Blomberg models is quite different once you look at the mechanical systems and parts. The Summit CP171 is another good fridge, imho, based on what I've read. Passive cooling is better for foods. A Danish company (Vestfrost) makes 24" fridge-freezers that passive-cool and with two compressors on two independent circuits, all at a low price point. I saw both the "old' and the "new" Vestfrost in operation. Very good. We almost bought one. Rebranded under the name "Conserv". The cp171 is a Vestfrost or a copycat. Fagor is another 24" fridge. I heard the noises it makes, that are well described in the PDF. Apart from that, it seems like a good fridge. In terms of interior volume, use a measuring tape if you want to compare different manufacturers' products. Do not rely on numbers given to you by the manufacturers. There is a huge range of (acceptable) methods used to calculate volume, in nominal terms, not in any way related to the real volume inside the fridge. A fridge with one shelf less than another fridge will give you a great deal less space. So the number of shelves is more important than the apparent volume. In each of the topics covered above, the LG is the best. Alone or equal to others also at that level "Best". The PDF explained what I wanted to know. I found it on their web site. That clinched the deal for me. It even told me the fridge exterior would be warm near the door (among other places). Sounds like a good idea, to tell the customer where the heat goes when it gets transferred from inside the fridge to the outside. When a fridge has its heat coils all on the back wall and only there, it needs air circulation behind it, and you are forcing the system to work extra hard if you back it up close to the wall. So, to have some of the heat being evacuated all around the sides Makes Perfect Sense to me. hth...See Morebeaniebakes
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