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ZachS. z5 Platteville, Colorado
9 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago

I think we need to do a roll call.

Is anyone else reeling from the big switch? Hopefully, you've all made it. Sure hate to see this place loose everyone because of this dumb change!

Comments (55)

  • Golden David
    9 years ago

    I'm still here and still building a greenhouse!

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  • digit (ID/WA, border)
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Hey, good that you are seeing my post, Zach. (I'm trying editing, I guess!)

    I am now seeing a "Please confirm you email" popup. Again & yet!

    For the third time, I clicked it. Five minutes later it was still trying to do something. So, I canceled and tried to change it back to the olde email address - "already taken," it says. Gee, do you think!

    The popup in my way is irritating but there are obviously bugs and Houzz will need to work them out. I think it is best for me not to try anymore and just show some patience.

    ;o) Steve

    i wonder if houzz has emoticons ....

  • eSilviu
    9 years ago

    strange interface for a forum...

  • david52 Zone 6
    9 years ago

    Steve, try offering up a goat as a sacrifice.

    I, for one, welcome our new Rocky Mountain forum overlords and offer my services, should they be needed.


  • treebarb Z5 Denver
    9 years ago

    I, too, am fairly change resistant. But this forum is important to me, so I'll give it a go! No problems confirming and the email came in about a minute, so I think I'm good!

  • ZachS. z5 Platteville, Colorado
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Seeing familiar faces (so to speak) is making the transition a little easier for me, haha!

    So, we have Holly, Steve, Goldenguy, Barb, David, Esilviu (my apologies, I don't recognize the username, was it different on the old GW?) and myself. Looks like were making good progress, lets see how how many more we get to trickle in here, hopefully everyone.

    That's funny David, though, I'm not so sure I'm willing to submit so easily (oh, who am I kidding, this is virtually the only site I use on the internet).

    The technical stuff works okay for me, it's the drastic change in everything else I am shaky about.

  • popmama (Colorado, USDA z5)
    9 years ago

    *waves*

    I think I made it. It will take some getting used to, that's for sure. This is the third time Garden Web has moved since I've been a member. I guess we should be grateful that it still exists at all.


  • Skybird - z5, Denver, Colorado
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I'm here---but I'm mad! First I had to try to figure out what email address I had put in here---TEN YEARS AGO! Then, of course, I'm not allowed to use my NAME anymore! The "zone" and "location" info is now gone by all the screen names! How can you help somebody with GARDENING questions if you don't know where they are! My bio seems to have disappeared--right along with my name! But they want an "IDEABOOK," whatever the H that is!!! And they've "given me" some weird "banner pic" that I don't even like!!! How about just plain blue or green--if there HAS to be something there???

    And, if that's not enough, they're turning the place into a Facebook Clone! There's a reason why I only sign into Facebook about once a year--and don't post when I do sign in!

    Without the "subject" at the beginning of each reply, it makes it much harder to separate, visually, the individual replies when you scroll down quickly, for me at least! And the RMG home page is somehow harder to glance down quickly too! It reminds me of the "lists of ads" you see down the sides of some sites!

    Is there no way to PREVIEW a post anymore, before you actually POST it????? All I see is SUBMIT! I've only ever "edited" posts a couple times, but can we still "edit" a post after we "submit" it--if we can't preview it, and it doesn't turn out the way we want it???

    It's not possible anymore to make the little "reply" box big enough to see the whole reply at the same time, and I've always hated trying to scroll up and down in a separate little box on a page--without winding up scrolling the "whole page" up and down! It just wastes a lot of time! For whatever I post anymore I'll try composing on Word again and see if that will copy and post here without screwing up things like dashes and quotes like GW used to do. And the size of the type in the "reply" box is coming up much smaller than the type in the messages that are already posted--it looks like subscript!!! What's up with that! Doesn't work too well for Olde Eyes!

    I won't go away completely, but I don't know if I'll be around, or even just check in to read, as often as I have been doing for the last 10 years! With others of you, I don't like change all that much, but if they have to change it, wouldn't it be nice if they cared at all about what we think about how it looks and works!

    Just plain Skybird! [Please don't start calling me my whole "new" name!!!]

    P.S. How do you originate a thread now??? There's a "little box" at the very top of the RMG home page that looks like a place to do it, but it says "Characters Left 70!" Can we really only start a post with SEVENTY CHARACTERS????? What the H is this? Twitter instead of FB???

    P.P.S. I want to see if I can still post pics---so here's a random pic in thumbnail and medium!

    <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/2ISe1nRssDPVu2ZD3MEcFMc9G2gis7V8s9ERNjessSA?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-QQQ44Mi-ceI/VMb7nScFluI/AAAAAAAAaiY/G-6KvP8detg/s144/IMG_6285.JPG"; height="108" width="144" /></a>

    <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/2ISe1nRssDPVu2ZD3MEcFMc9G2gis7V8s9ERNjessSA?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-QQQ44Mi-ceI/VMb7nScFluI/AAAAAAAAaiY/G-6KvP8detg/s640/IMG_6285.JPG"; height="480" width="640" /></a>

  • Skybird - z5, Denver, Colorado
    9 years ago

    So much for the picture theory! I guess I won't be posting pics anymore! I don't want them in "somebody else's" database--which is why I don't post pics on FB! Can we post "active links" like we used to be able to--with HTML code???

  • Skybird - z5, Denver, Colorado
    9 years ago

    Is it still possible to PM people? How is the swap gonna work if we can't do that!?!

  • ZachS. z5 Platteville, Colorado
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Both of you have been been added to the list! So far, we're doing pretty good!

    I would say we are pretty fortunate for the longevity of this place, probably pretty rare for a website. I'd say that's a testament to it's users ;).

    As for PMing... supposedly there is a "contact" button in our profiles, though, I looked for it on Holly's so I could send her info about some potatoes, and I didn't see it.

    If you click the "link" button on the bottom of the message (next to photo ad video buttons) you can put your URL in and add an active link I.E.: Active Link.

    I haven't tried any pictures yet, so, not sure about that.

    What drives me absolutely BONKERS is the fact there is presumably a size limit on our posts, many of the long ones (like mine) have been cut short.

  • digit (ID/WA, border)
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Where am I ??

    Html code, Skybird? Probably my least favorite thing about GW! I spent hours trying to figure out how to do things as simple as italicizing a word. I hope it's all in BBCode now. Let's see, [I]here are some words.[/I]

    No preview ..? Well, I guess I'll see soon.

    Ah, we will adjust to it. It's a surprise. I was looking at some posts on a random forum before RMG appeared, before I could register. Those folks were talking last month about "an end of an era!" I glanced at the iVillage twitter account and there was nothing posted since July ..! The iVillage website takes you to the Today show. I was outta the loop.

    We will adjust and this format may just bring a new generation to garden forums and gardening. And, that would be a good thing.

    Steve

  • digit (ID/WA, border)
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • Skybird - z5, Denver, Colorado
    9 years ago

    Discouraged!

    The "link" to click now is the same as the link "box" that used to be visible at the bottom when you were posting--but without needing to click on anything before. But, based on your post, it does look like you can still put active HTML links in the text!

    But I went back to some of the olde posts I had saved links to, and you are very, very correct! There is some sort of a limit to how long a post can be now, and anything that was TOO LONG in the old threads is now truncated and a whole lot of valuable info is missing in some cases! I had saved links to those threads so if somebody asked the same thing I could just link the appropriate thread or copy the appropriate parts out of a thread and paste them in the current thread! Now much of the info is missing! If we had had a warning I could have gone into Waybackmachine and saved those particular threads as they were originally written! Too late now!!! Thank you for losing all that good info for us, HOUZZ!

    And I also went back to some of the threads where I had posted pics, and while the pics are, for some mysterious reason, still there, they're not clickable anymore, so if I posted a small or thumbnail version to save space, now anybody looking at that thread needs a magnifying glass to even try to see what I was posting. They used to be clickable to open them in my WebAlbums where you got the large version, and then could magnify that even further.

    Zach, I was planning to post pics for your perennial garden suggestions thread, but, as of now, I don't have any way to do it. I'm not hopeful, but I'll try posting a pic again in a couple days to see if anything has changed! But if it doesn't change, I'm not about to put MY pics into HOUZZ's database, anymore than I'm gonna put my pics into FBs! Sorry about that!

    For anybody who's just trying to figure this out, I started to get emails every time something was posted here, and I found "advanced settings" on "my page," or whatever it's now called, and I found a LONG row of boxes with things they were planning to send me! Say WHAT! I went down the list and changed them ALL to NEVER! So you all might want to find the right page and decide what, if any, of That Stuff you actually want to get. It looks to me like if you want to "opt out" of getting "notifications" for any thread you post on, whether you started it or not, you need to click the little box on the bottom of that thread--ON EACH THREAD! I couldn't find a way to opt out of getting those notifications all at once!

    I checked out about PMing a little more, and I'm with you, Zach! I found on "my page" (I really don't know quite what to call it anymore!) where you can look at "messages" that were sent to you, and ones that you sent---but I sure can't find anywhere that says "send a message!" And, from what I've seen, I get the impression that even if we figure out how to "send a message," it's NOT going to be sent to US at our email address, but we'll need to check our "messages" here on this site to read them! There's a pretty good chance that means I'll never notice them!

    Another discouraging thing I just discovered is that there's no way to search JUST RMG anymore! So if I'm looking for something from, say, a past swap, it will be close to impossible to find the thread I'm looking for--since swap threads from ALL of GW will be in the search results!




  • digit (ID/WA, border)
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    If I begin typing in the search box, Sky', I get a dropdown or whatever it's called.

    It shows my typing in Rocky Mountain ... So, I can finish my term and click that for a search of RMG alone. However, it only came up for RMG and "Advice." It could be that it is different for each of us. And, houzz may need to make serious tweaks to get things squared away in all sorts of ways. You know, nothing much at all worked for a few hours today.


    I did the search for my username. Apparently, there was already a houzz "digit" and he or she can now claim those posts of GardenWeb Member since 2002-11-07.


    Yeah, I did find the GW page. Now, I guess I will try to find this new page for stevesdigitS. I might be someone I know ...

    Steve

  • ZachS. z5 Platteville, Colorado
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Yeah, it is pretty much the same, though, it seems that it wont automatically put the link at the bottom of the post. In my opinion, nothing too drastic there.

    I suppose we could always resort to email for pics and things, if we were all up for it (an inconvenience, to say the least). It will be a great loss to not be able to see pictures though. No need to be sorry though, nothing we can really do about it, and your not wanting to give your pictures to someone else is well founded.

    Definately agree with the opting out of notifications. Before I figured out how to do that, I went to my email and had 50,000 notifications from just this afternoon! However, since I opted out of those, it seems that it has taken care of the problem, no more emails! So from what I can tell, opting out via your profile negates the need to do so on each thread. Has your experience been different, Skybird?

    Still looking for the option to send a message, but what I DID notice, on that list of notifications you can opt out of, you can choose to have a notification of private messages emailed to you, so you know to check it here.

    HTML code I knew how to use, not sure what BBC code is Steve. I don't think there is any text formatting available...yet. Though it seems it may be in the works? Can't verify that!

    I emailed them about the cutting off posts things, and on another topic where I brought up in no uncertain terms, my disgust at this fact! A "manager" (is that what you call them?) told me they were working on that issue, too. Hopefully it get's resolved. Until then, there is a way to access your "clippings" in their full and un-cut glory from the old gardenweb site via the cached version on Google. It didn't work for mine, and I tried your's, Skybird and it's the same as mine. If you had them set to private, it wont work.

    But, what you do it type your OLD gardenweb username (IE: ZachS) and the word "clippings" into the goggle search bar. The first or second result should be "Clippings by ZachS" (or whatever your user name was). Dont click the link. There will be a little green arrow pointing down, click that and it will say "cached" click that and it will bring you to your clippings page on the old gardenweb. Like I said, it wont work if your clippings were private.

  • ZachS. z5 Platteville, Colorado
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Or, in my case, even if they weren't private, though, several members have had luck with this.

    Come to think of it, if you knew the name of the thread, this will work too. Ill try typing in the name of a thread with "gardenweb". I do believe the whole website was cached.

    UPDATE:

    It DOES work! If you know the name of a thread, you can access it through the cache website by typing the name of the thread into google with the word "gardenweb" then clicking that green arrow. It will bring you to the old version of the thread, with FULL replies which you can then copy/paste into a word document or something.

  • Skybird - z5, Denver, Colorado
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I composed this on a Word document, since I really can’t deal with the “little box” we now have to compose messages in, so I don’t have a clue how this is going to translate to the forum, and, at least for tonite, I’m not going to go back after I post it to fix all the weirded out characters—if there are any!

    ALSO: I’m gonna cut this in half and make it two separate replies! Don’t think I can deal with half of it disappearing on me when I post it if it happens to BE TOO LONG!

    I just spent some time roaming around other forums to find out what other folks think of “this!” We’re not the only ones that are unhappy! Lots of folks talking about the “lack of contrast” that makes it hard to easily skim down the threads. And, so far at least, the ONLY way to post pics is THRU their site! If that doesn’t change, I won’t be posting pics anymore—which takes a whole lot of the fun out of it!

    I checked out the “main” HOUZZ site, and they’re a HOUSE site! Don’t know why they’d be buying gardening forums—except—I’m assuming they wanted access to the home forums on GW, and “wound up” taking the gardening forums in the deal—whether they wanted them or not! Looks to me like they’re mostly in the business of Selling Things!

    Other folks complaining about getting WAY to many “notifications” too! I found one guy had posted that he felt like he was in a bad dream, and I replied that I was in the dream with him, but it seemed more to me like Night Terrors! Other people talking about leaving GW! I REALLY don’t want to see this place go away! I’ve have too many good friends here, and, for a Little Olde Lady who never thought this would happen, I’ve even made real live up-close-and-personal, in-the-flesh friends! Never, ever would have believed I’d make real LIVE friends online when I got my first computer!!!

    But I wonder if these guys are going to be making Enough Money on gardening forums to try to keep them going, or to care about how we want it at all.

    ~~~ To be continued! ~~~

  • Skybird - z5, Denver, Colorado
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    ~~~ Continued ~~~

    Thanks for the info about searching just RMG! I had found that on another forum, but it didn’t work when I tried it! Then I remembered I had JavaScript disabled—which is how I always have used GW since they came up with the in-text links, and when I re-enabled that the drop-down worked for me. It’s one of those “suggestion” type things like you get in some search boxes—that I normally disable if I can, but I guess it might be the only way to do what I want here, now!

    Zach, others agree with you that text formatting is apparently no longer possible—and on one forum it appeared that most of the members were going to Opt Out of GW because of that!

    Zach, I don’t know what you mean by my clippings (I never clipped anything, I just bookmarked—in my browser—threads I thought I might want to go back to) and I don’t know what a “cached version of google” is! If it has anything to do with google plus, I don’t—and never will—have it!

    The “managers” on forums are usually called administrators, or admins! Just an FYI! [For an Olde Person, I’ve learned a few things! ;-)]

    Here’s the GOOD NEWS!!! I found a way to get only my old “Skybird” displayed with my posts!!! And I didn’t even know I was doing it! I was at my “bio” page, and I decided to put my “first name” in the box—and since I do my best to not use my “real” name online, I put Skybird in the box! Then, when I replied to the Bad Dream guy, I saw just Skybird at the top of my post! Knowing there was already “somebody else” with that User Name, I thought something must have gotten screwed up, so I went to my info on the page that just said Skybird, expecting to somehow be into somebody else’s info, and it was MINE! That’s when I realized that what’s shown with the posts is what you put down in the first and/or last “name boxes! If there’s nothing in those boxes, it shows your login name! So if anybody who had to change their sign in name wants to still have their “old name” shown with the posts, all you have to do is go into your “profile” and put whatever you want to show in the “first name” box! So, Digit, if you want to be just plain Digit again, make that your first name!!!

    There are a lot of unhappy folks around here right now, and it will definitely be interesting to see what happens over the next few days!

    I’m outta here for tonite! I need something to relax me!!! I’ve been watching Indian documentaries on Youtube lately, and right now I’m on Ken Burns, The West, so, another episode, here I come!

    (Just plain) Skybird!

  • ZachS. z5 Platteville, Colorado
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    So the wife took my computer because I got mad at the VA. So I'm on my phone and this is going to be short because I hate typing on my phone.

    I don't think that cache is part of google plus. What it is, is a "picture" of the website, if you try to click anything it will just bring you to Houzz. What it is good for is sort of like an archive of a website. If, in your browser bookmarks you have the title of the topics you saved, you can access the archived version, if you want, you can post here or email me the names of the topics and I can retrieve them for you.

    I do agree that no pictures = no fun. However I don't think I would leave this community over the text formatting issue. That to me is not worth losing access to the knowledge and wisdom of everyone here.

    So far, and for the present time at least, the "admins" seem to be working with people and addressing many of their concerns over the transition. Granted, they can't and won't fix everything that we gripe about, it seems they have somewhat of a vested interest in keeping us a part of their website for the immediate future anyways. Maybe they think we're going to buy something haha.

    I hope most people chose to stay, like I said this is pretty much the only website I use and if this place goes away, I think that would be a major disadvantage to those of us who spend our time outside with our plants, not to mention all of us who have gotten to know each other so well will probably never get to talk to each other again!

    I know I for one and slowly adjusting to this new set up, though I had gotten quite used to the old one and found it suited peoples needs fairly well. (Who cares if information is in a 2002 format? Its still the same information! Heck books are a B.C. format, they still work!) Who knows,maybe this new fangled updated version will (eventually) grow on us too. After all, they used to tell me "the best place in the Army is the last place you were" because that's what you had gotten comfortable with.

  • digit (ID/WA, border)
    9 years ago

    Having formatting that allows copy & paste from your word processor program will be of great help for many of us. The mess that GW caused when they suddenly "disallowed" so much pasted punctuation several years ago is still fresh in my memory. * % # € & ™ ... hmm.

    As a kid, I learned that adjust & adapt was a survival skill. I used to imagine myself as a quick learner. Moving into the workaday world somewhat altered that self-concept. I really had to work to learn - funny how that was important for some things and not others.

    I am using a tablet right now. Adjusting to this new houzz reminds me of the first few weeks with this "mobile device." I'd never used a touch screen before except in some waiting room where I was checking in for an appointment. I finally decided to try a stylus so my clumsy digits were not such a problem. But, they were only a small part of the adjusting and adapting.

    Ya know, it was 93 years ago that President Harding had the First Radio installed in the White House. Young folks might shrug at that Dark Ages idea but Dad will be 97 this month. Yeah, he is older than that radio.

    Songbird, I have looked at "My Houzz" 3 times since I got here yesterday afternoon. Each time, that webpage was different. There was no place to put my name until this morning. There was no place to upload an avatar until late last night. I guess it's from having a tablet. The webpage interfaces with your screen and your browser in different ways. Houzzever, houzz is making changes on the fly! Standby ... pour yourself a cup of coffee and expect changes.

    Look, I used to rant a little about GW ... maybe more than a little. The time they kicked me off for linking a seed catalog nearly had me typing out a letter to the attorney general! When I learned that NBC owned iVillage which took over from Spike I.could.not.believe how badly they managed advertising on the GW site!


    Zach, BBCode might be what this forum now has but the forum engineers decide on how much the user can alter text & such. Right now, it looks like "not at all."


    I will not embrace everything. I won't even comprehend a majority of what is going on! I'll do my best not to stumble and bring down someone at my elbow as I go down over a curb I didn't see ...Expect me out here. Expect me "out there!" (Try to keep your wheels off the sidewalks because my agility isn't what it used to be. :o)

    Steve

  • smdmt
    9 years ago

    What was wrong with the old format?

  • digit (ID/WA, border)
    9 years ago

    Well, I didn't much like it ... (take that for what it's worth :o).


    Ummm, GW format couldn't be integrated into houzz in all likelihood and that must have been considered a requirement with the purchase. Wikipedia's houzz article is a little revealing in reporting on the big $$ that came into the outfit last year. Some folks must have really liked houzz! Why NBC couldn't have done a better job with GW is a question ... among many. History!


    Shoot. I go over to the Growing Tomatoes forum. Haha! Those guys are so cool ... I mean, they write books, don't they? It's kinda frozen over there but criticism is mute, or nearly so. Some of them will probably prefer jumping out windows than admitting to any struggles ... Me. Once that goat spirit took over ... excuse me, I need to get the door open and let a little of this smoke from the BBQ out.


    Steve

  • ZachS. z5 Platteville, Colorado
    Original Author
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Steve, all I can say is I pretty much agree with everything you've said. We will either adapt or we will be history. Evolution is funny that way (imagine how the dinosaurs felt during the switch from the Cretaceous to the Triassic... Now they had a real reason to be upset!)

    While it was far from perfect, and definitely needed some changes, the old site had become familiar, and when something familiar is lost, especially so abruptly, it is tough. Like I said the best place is the last place you were, despite the fact it may or may not actually be true.

    Happy birthday to your dad! 97 is quite an accomplishment not afforded to many!

    I did a little digging on the cut-posts today. An administrator by the name of Tamara has addressed what is now quickly become one of the top complaints about the change over. The official word is that the data was too large to handle the swap, so they got shorted. However, there is good news! The data that is not here on Houzz is not LOST, and the techy people who deal with sort of thing have it at their disposal. They are attempting to rectify the situation and ask that we email them any shorted posts so that they can get a handle on this major problem. What seems to be less clear is whether they are fixing posts on their own or if they are only fixing ones that are brought to their attention.

  • digit (ID/WA, border)
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Wow!

    I've just been cruising around, mostly on the forums but a little on internet. I had an uncomfortable thought when I got up this morning. iVillage had all those parenting and support forums. You got a grief support group online. What happened when those shut down? Or, just changed.

    Well, I still don't know. As best as I can figure out, NBC was out and iVillage shut down in December.

    I rummaged through other GW forums. The initial disconnect was disconcerting. I'm kind of glad that I couldn't get back on the forums early. Yes. I was rattled when I finally posted here on RMG. It takes that first step even if it's off the porch and we don't know if we're going down on our knees or staying on our feet ... I'm too olde to think I might hit the ground running.

    There were a few glitches and houzz was obviously patching things back together on the fly. There was a lot of content here! I've often resorted to a mindset that, Hey! I'm a reasonably intelligent person. If "they" want me to but I can't figure things out, it's "their" fault. (Defensive, ain't I? :o)

    Anyway, I think I'll stay outta the veggie forum for awhile. I haven't been an active participant for a few years but, right now, there is so much dust in the air over in veggies that they should all just stay indoors ... or, maybe, just pick one thread and get in there with some calm words.

    Steve

  • ZachS. z5 Platteville, Colorado
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    From what I can tell, NBC was (or already had) shut down iVillage, for reasons unbeknownst to us. Had NBC not found someone willing to adopt us, this website would no longer exist.

    I think that is a major misconception in all of this, and it's something that should have been made clear BEFORE the big switch. Had the switch NOT happened, gardenweb would have been shut down completely. Instead of a "conform your email" message we would have gotten an "ERROR: URL invalid" message. I think a lot of people would be a bit more accommodating and understanding had this been made apparent.

    As it was, any information about the switch was limited and gave the sense that someone had simply offered enough money to buy gardenweb, and the powers at be said yes. Now that I (sort of) understand that this isn't the case, I feel a twinge of remorse at all my pissing and moaning. At least someone was kind enough to bring us in out of the rain, even if we don't like their decor and furnishings. Goes back to the old "beggars can't be choosers" thing.

    There's going to be a lot of hiccups, and bumps in the road, maybe even one to one and a half mountains that need to be surmounted, but if the past few days are any indication, the team who acquired us is dedicated to the task, at least for the time being.

    Yeah, the vegetable forum is a mess right now. Shoot, I've done so much damage control over there, Houzz should be sending me my check any day now!

  • grouchygardener
    9 years ago

    I made it! I can't give up now that I've just found you all!

    I hope they get things sorted out with this website crap.


  • gjmancini
    9 years ago

    OMG, What is this, has our site been hijacked. No notice. :(

  • ZachS. z5 Platteville, Colorado
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    No it wasn't hijacked, though it does feel a little like it has. From what I can tell, what happened was our old host was getting the axe and in order to save GW, someone had to buy it, or else it would have gone away completely. Glad you found us again!

  • mstywoods
    9 years ago

    I'm here! Wow, this is very different and a bit challenging to get used to!! I'll see how this post works. I had gotten the email awhile back about the 'merger', but forgot about it. What a surprise when I clicked my RMG bookmark :^o

    Marj


  • mstywoods
    9 years ago

    So how come this thread doesn't show up at the top of the main page list, since it was updated more recently?! Don't like that!


  • mstywoods
    9 years ago

    Nevermind - see it just did. Must have been a browser delay.


  • Skybird - z5, Denver, Colorado
    9 years ago

    Uh-oh! I just discovered that one of the things people are "talking about" hasn't been "fixed" yet! Unanswered posts don't stay on top anymore! I sure hope they fix that pretty quickly, 'cause unanswered threads are gonna "get lost" really fast!

    I also figured out that the "70 character limit" is just for the subject of a post, not for the whole post! Seventy characters for a post looked absolutely insane to me, so glad I understand that one now!

    Misty, it does seem to Think for a couple minutes before updating a thread with a recent post back up to the top! I've noticed that a few times already. I'm using Firefox these days--don't know if it's different in a different browser!

    Skybird

  • mstywoods
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Wow - just read through all the posts. Gosh, sure hope the new owner do indeed fix some of these issues!! I haven't run into anything yet, but I've only just gotten my toe in the water ....

    Ok, trying adding html for an image from a website to see how/if this works:

    Nope - see now that doesn't work.

  • Skybird - z5, Denver, Colorado
    9 years ago

    Misty, the only way to post pics anymore, at least for now,
    is to post them “thru the site.” You
    can’t use your hosting site links anymore.
    That one is still a big problem with me, and I won’t be posting pics
    anymore unless they change it so I can use my WebAlbums links again. There was a LONG discussion about posting
    pics on another forum I got involved in on Tuesday. I can’t verify this since I haven’t done it,
    but apparently you can post up to four pics at a time in a way similar to
    however it used to be done on the Olde GW if you didn’t use a photo hosting
    site. They all come out the “same size”
    and they’re not clickable, so you can’t easily get a bigger view or “magnify”
    them to see things close up.

    If you’re trying to figure out other things, I just started
    a thread for people to ask “how to” questions—IF anybody around here has
    figured the “whatever” out by now!
    Unanswered threads don’t stay on top till they’re answered anymore, so
    it’s already moved down a few threads!

    We’re glad you found your way back here,,

    Skybird

  • digit (ID/WA, border)
    9 years ago

    I'm pleased that the url remains the same and my RMG bookmark works to get to the main page.


    I don't have any bookmarks to olde posts. Ya know ... I used to save page after page of documents on the computer. I'd write things on the word processing program, copy and paste ... then one day GW changed. What was that, about 7 years ago! Even my apostrophes were shown all messed up. It was years before someone in the test forum showed me how to make a degree sign!


    *** Anyway, the bookmark for the forum has rescued me a couple times when I've gotten lost on houzz. ***


    Steve

  • Skybird - z5, Denver, Colorado
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Oh, Digit! I've been "surfing all over the place--GW--in the last couple days, and you should see some of the "comments!" We're GARDENERS! I'm not interested in $1,000 chandeliers! I don't care who has white carpet!!! I haven't looked at anything on houzz even once--and have no plans to be checking anything out "over there!" I'm really glad they "saved" us, but I'm a GARDENER too! All my furniture is at least 45 years olde--and that works very well for me! I kinda try to keep my house more-or-less clean, but then, it seems I'm always tracking "stuff" in from the yard! Oh, well!

    I'm glad, too, that my original bookmark still works. Wouldn't have even had a CLUE where to look for GW if it hadn't. And I have that right at the top of each browser page, in what's called the "bookmarks toolbar" in FF, so I Go Directly to RMG, do not pass Go, do not collect $200--and do not waste time at houzz, or spend any money there on the way to where I want to be! If they're expecting the GARDENERS to be spending much money there, I think they might be a wee tad disappointed in us!

    But I am glad they kept us from falling into an Internet Black Hole!

    Skybird

  • ZachS. z5 Platteville, Colorado
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Glad you made it Marj! So far, it looks like Rocky Mountain will remain the strongest forum on Garden Web, just waiting for the stragglers to filter through!

    We are, after all, a resilient bunch. If we can make it through a gardening season here, surely we can make it through a simple forum change, right?

    A great many of the issues have been fixed, I think the folks in charge have really put a genuine effort into making us happy! There's a lot of things we will have to meet them halfway on, but for the most part, that have proven to be gracious and patient hosts.

    I have to admit, I was peeking at the landscaping section on the main Houzz site, I may not be able to afford any of them, but some were pretty dang cool to look at! Heresy, I know, but I promise, I will never put a $1,000 chandelier or white carpet in my yard!

  • Skybird - z5, Denver, Colorado
    9 years ago

    LOL! We most
    definitely ARE a resilient bunch, Zach!
    I wasn’t finding anything at all funny a couple days ago, but I’ve found
    several things to laugh at today! Not so
    sure it’s a “simple” forum change—but CHANGE it is! Live and learn—or dry up and blow away!

    I’m still very unhappy about the picture posting thing, and
    I’m not sure that one is gonna get fixed!
    And sadly disappointed about the truncated post thing, but I’m pretty
    sure they’ll get around, at some point, to fixing that one. There sure will be a lot of good info lost if
    they don’t.

    Have to admit that I like skipping the preview—since it’s so
    easy to fix typos after it’s posted now.
    It does seem much quicker, and I was kinda freaking out about the loss
    of “preview” that first day.

    Anyway, I hope we all manage to Keep on Growing Together!

    Skybird

    P.S. You SURE you
    don’t want white carpet in your yard?
    You wouldn’t have to water it!
    And in a few days it would be brown and blend right in! ;-)

  • ZachS. z5 Platteville, Colorado
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    I'm sad about the picture posting thing, too, Skybird. Your pictures will be sorely missed! I'm already thing about how empty this years edition of "what's blooming in your garden?" will be without them!

    There are several thing I like about this new set up as well. For one, it works somewhat better on my phone than the old one. When I go the list of different forums, they are all the same color, even the ones I have been to (though, the same can't be said about the posts inside those different forums...still grumbling that, that got put back to the old way!) I like that the forums I have posted on are all listed, with new comments in the "my Houzz" thingy. Makes it much easier to keep up with the activity rather than trying to remember "did I reply to that in the tomato forum or the vegetable one?"

    Haha, well, the not watering or mowing is sure tempting, but, since I'm spending the money anyways, I can put it towards Astro-turf instead and have the best looking yard in the western United Stats! It's fun to pretend...

  • jaliranchr
    9 years ago

    *tip toes gently on new terrain* Hi, gang! This is weird. Very weird. Great to see all of you, but not so sure about the new format after so long with the old parchment and quill pen version we were used to.

    Wonderful to see most have made it. My mind had to shift down a couple of gears to get traction when I got here. Howdy all!


  • Skybird - z5, Denver, Colorado
    9 years ago

    Jali,

    Yes, this is WEIRD! And they've already fixed a few of the problems! Brace yourself when you look at a pre-houzz thread that had a long post or posts on it! They're all cut off now and just abruptly END with ...! I know we're ALL hoping they--at some point--fix that one! If you can't figure something out, post it over on the How Do I Do It thread. Some of us have figured at least some of this out by now!

    Skybird

    P.S. It just happened on MONDAY!

  • digit (ID/WA, border)
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Hi ya Jali!

    I did a tiny bit of researching after looking at internet archives. I was curious about the days gone by. "The Virtual Mirror, Inc" held copyright after the first couple of years and was only credited with ownership of GW and related sites when it incorporated in 1998. It is defunct and I guess that happened when NBC's iVillage took over. What I'm curious about is who the heck "Spike" was ... but, I may have already come across his real name.

    Anyway, I'm also wondering if he was the person who once banned me from GW for mentioning New Dimension Seeds ... (let's see if it happens again!) Shoot. I finagled my way back on because GW automatically sent out birthday wishes in those days and when they did - I responded to the email.

    I was admonished to "stay on topic!" Realizing my place, I bit my tongue and came back about ten years ago, ;o).

    Steve, good digit

  • jaliranchr
    9 years ago

    Great to see you, Skybird and Digit, and all of you!

    I remember hearing tales about Spike. LOL, it wouldn't surprise me that you ruffled his feathers by mentioning a seed company. Those were very different days. You have 3 years on me. I didn't sign up until 2005, but I'd been lurking for a year or two.

    Man this is weird! My mind will always see the old format. I guess I figured it was similar to bindweed and would always be around. Oh, the infamous bindweed thread going back to 1999! *sigh* Time to go listen to Bowie sign "Changes."


  • digit (ID/WA, border)
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I should say that I wasn't on RMG for my first few GW years.

    Back then, I was trying to find how I fit into the PNW forum. If there had been more folks from "the border," I might have been able to gain something. Even more alpine gardeners from the Cascades, maybe even the Olympics ...

    As it was, I had more than enuf advice from Puyallup.

    Steve

  • jnfr
    9 years ago

    Very happy to see you're all here. I am totally disoriented anyway after this long, cold winter. No idea whether this will show up as me, though I claimed my account.

    I was: jnfr


  • jnfr
    9 years ago

    Hey, it not only knows me, it still has my garden zone :)


  • Skybird - z5, Denver, Colorado
    9 years ago

    Hi Jnfr,

    Glad you made it over here! If you're trying to "figure things out," you might want to check out the "How do I do it -- Where do I find it" thread. As we were all figuring things out, we were posting how to do stuff over there--and testing some things out--it sorta turned into our Sandbox! And if you can't figure something out, post your question on that thread too, so all the "how to" for "our new site" will stay easily findable in one place.

    The "zone thing" is fairly new! They added it at some point, but I'm not sure exactly when. If you want it there without the parentheses (like Zach and I), go to your bio page and put your screen name in the "first name" box, and your zone and whatever else you want after your screen name in the "last name" box!

    Welcome home,
    Skybird


  • jnfr
    9 years ago

    Very nice to see you're still here, Skybird, and being as helpful as always. Thank you!


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