Softmentor, I wanted to add something to my previous response. You are partially right. There is something called cocktail citrus and yes it does have more then one fruit on the same tree, sometimes 3-4. I wish I could have found one of these before I bought my tree. They are a great option for someone who lives in a temperate climate and has to grow indoors at least part of the year but the name is cocktail citrus. It does not contain champagne or grapefruit in the name, that is what seperates the two from another. I just wanted to clear that up in case someone here sees that and buys what I got and ends up being upset because what they ended up with was just one variety of fruit. I am very torn right now. I really want one more citrus and I am having such a hard time trying to decide between the IM lemon and the washington navel orange which is my all time favorite. Ahh..decisions descisions. i eny the gropu of people here who live in zone 8 and higher and can grow whatever they want! I recieved a Logees catalog in the mail yesterday. The only thing that I really like about the catalog is the pictures. Well at least until I got this catalog yesterday! On the cover of the new catalog is a photo of a 'Day' avocado. I almost bought an avocado the last time I was in Florida. I remember the Home Depot selling them for $9.00! I almost picked it up but i was determined to buy a grafted condo mango and there was no stopping me! I remember seeing the cocktail citrus and all the other citrus trees they had for sale. It made me want to cry when I saw the price tag. I am now considering renting a van and loading up while i am there. When I checked out the price tags, it made me sick! They had huge citrus trees for under $50.00! You Florida peopole are so lucky, and even though it is not legal to buy citrus and take them out of Florida, I really doubt that anyone would have noticed or said anything. The security people at tampa airport didn't say much when they saw me carrying on a large box with my mango inside! Andrew

I've tasted both (from a supermarket, so I'm not really sure either were at their best). The Ugli fruit was kind of like an orange-flavored grapefruit. The flavor was a little watery. The oils in the rind are very "heavy" and spicy (also "intense" and "bitter"). Not really sure it's in a good way that makes you want to eat it, but it does add a distinctive character to the aroma of eating the fruit. Now you can draw a parallel between the taste of Ugli fruit and a Cocktail grapefruit. They could both be described is laying somewhere in between the spectrum of grapefruit and orange. Cocktail grapefruit is much sweeter though and I would say the orange-aspect is a bit more mandarin-like. Neither really has the full grapefruit flavor or a fragrance of a regular grapefruit. (I'd say the Ugli fruit wasn't like a grapefruit at all, in terms of flavor). The Ugli fruit didn't have a huge amount of flavor. (I think it's mostly those spicy fragrances in the peel that draw people to eat it). Insepid might not be the right word, but like a very mild flavored orange.

Lol Steve, yes you are right about that! Jan, the oroblanco was quite large. Definitely bigger than an orange - the size of a typical grapefruit, perhaps a tad bit smaller. I did not weigh it. I'll try to remember to weigh the next one. Sunshine, yes, those little "slices of heaven" as my husband called the sumo went fast. Pac, I think I have a valentine...maybe. For the life of me I can't be sure now and there are some that are too hard to check the tags on. I thought I had one, but my memory fails me these days...lol ;)

Bob! I am counting the day till I can move some of my hardier trees outside so I can start to clean the greenhouse! Jan, here is a picture of my vaniglia sanguigno (pink one) next to a NZL (yellow/orange one) Do I like the vaniglia sanguigno? Well, like we all know this one is sweet without the balance of sweet/acid that we used to get when we taste an orange or mandarine so it’s not a favorite of mine now. It’s sweet without any complexity. I said now because I know that when I was on chemo, I would have greatly appreciate this one because of that lack of acidity. I think that’s a keeper for me even though it’s not my favorite just because I intend to give the fruits too people who will need it just like I will do with my miracle fruits. In the picture, you can see a NZL and it’s the first time that I get to taste this fruit. Did you ever try one of yours Jan? I am very surprised to say that I like it very very much. I usually like my fruits on the sweet side so that’s why I didn’t have a lot of expectation on this one. I thought that it will be just like a meyer lemon but with a little bit of sugar content which won’t be detectable by a human loll. Anyway, I was game to taste a piece to know for myself what’s all the fuzz is about and used the remaining in my cooking. Well, when I first bite in it, I told myself that I was right it‘s sour like a lemon so I was ready to pull my face of someone who regrets biting in something sour but... oh miracle, the sourness got replace by something sweet and leaving my mouth with a surprising good balance of sweet/sour (more on the sour side but still sweet!). So, that’s the reason why I took another bite and another and went back in my greenhouse to pick another fruit and another loll. Like you know, I don’t have a lot of self restraint.