I am back. Hi Macmanmatty2, you said you have 1 150 chill hours. You also said you live in Port st joe, Florida, U.S.A. Your chilling accumulation using this method looks too big in my opinion. Your cordinates in Port st joe, Florida, U.S.A. is 29,80 N and 85,29 W. Tallahassee, Florida, U.S.A. cordinates are 30,27 N and 84,16 W. So your location is southwest from Tallahassee, Florida, U.S.A. I counted Tallahassee, Florida, U.S.A. year 2008 chilling units and it is not as high as you posted. I got Tallahassee, Florida, U.S.A. 778 chill hours for year 2008. You said 1 150 chill hours. 372 Chill hours less than your number. May i ask you where you got your number or what you counted? Are you sure you counted it right way? Also if i think you are more southwesterly than Tallahassee, Florida, U.S.A. you might have even less chill hours than that of 778 chill hours of Tallahassee, Florida, U.S.A. 778 Chill hours in Tallahassee, Florida, U.S.A. is much closer your should be 700-500 chill hours than your 1 150 chill hours. I also counted following surrounding places in Florida and got following chilling hours using this method : Aplachicola, Florida, U.S.A. 767 Chipley, Florida, U.S.A. 962 De Funiak Spring, Florida, U.S.A. 934 Madison, Florida, U.S.A. 800 Mayo, Florida, U.S.A. 750 Perry, Florida, U.S.A. 600 Quincy 3 ssw, Florida, U.S.A. 873 That was the list. None of those places have 1 150 chill hours and none reached 1 000 chill hours. Aplachicola, Florida, U.S.A. is southeastern from your location having 767 chill hours. So you probably have something between those 2 places, between 778 chill hours and 767 chill hours. So about 700 chill hours, not 1 150 chill hours you got. What is the discrepancy here? Those 2 numbers are quite close to your should be around number. Any idea? No need to feel guilty any way, you may have just made an mistake, well you can learn about those.

averbisadverbera, I will answer you since you seem to have singled me out If the UN stuck to international law we would all be much better off. The UN has been plagued with corruption just has every quasi-governmental or government agency has. Surely you can see that. Socialism has little to do with it. You wrote "It's not just alarmists that say climate change is connected with human activity its just a widely accepted fact. Its really a little crazy to suggest otherwise." It is not widely accepted fact. If it were, there would not be the heated discussions. You saying it is so does not make it fact. Also Âits should be ÂitÂs on both accounts. Sheesh! You wrote  "YIKES! That's right out a laundry mat crackpot religous periodical." The global warming debate does not revolve around religion unless you count the high priest Al Gore and his minion of global warming worshipers who follow his hypocritical teachings on faith and not facts. I also take offense to you implying that I use a laundry mat. By the way Âreligous should be Âreligious I think you meant to type Âout of a laundry as well. You wrote... "Was Hurricane Katrina a disaster? Imagine what it would have been like if sea levels were 3 or 4 feet higher and it was a category 5 instead of a 4. That's only a matter of time irrespective of whether you think climate change is man made or not (and not that much time, just several decades at most). It can;t be stopped no matter what now." Yes, hurricane Katrina was a disaster. AndÂ. Does that have something to do with global warming? If global warming canÂt be stopped and it is just decades away then you better buy some high ground in the Rockies, build a well stocked bunker with Uzis and buy gold. You are wasting time on these forums with Âidiots like me. Much of the rest of your comments are little more than anecdotal weather stories, what ifs, etc. However, I do have to comment on your statement "If you're 30 to 40 years old you'll see the disaster in your lifetime. If you're older it's your legacy. Congratulations. Put your head in the sand if it makes you feel better and play the skeptic. Call people alamists if you dont want to believe what they say. But the papers cited above are the consensus of the most educated people in this area. They are a little out of the league of the average (or above average) garden-weber." Well, I am 37 so I guess I will see this "disaster". Hopefully, all of the super intelligent people at the UN will be able to save us poor average (or below average I assume as well) people who come to read these GardenWeb posts. Your last comment is pure elitist global warming believer rhetoric "I hope you're judged for your willful, proud blindness. It takes a special kind of person to curse their children this way." I truly do take offense that you say I curse my children. I have a beautiful 22 month old son that I love very much. Good day to you!

barb yes can you just need to find the small seed quantity importation form filled it out by the American sending you the seed. There is similar form that would need to be filled out if decide to send seed to an American.

the 'vines' have to fit into a small priority mail box, so they are only like 8in long, But they grow like weeds. They are woody and root very easily. I dont know how many seeds. As many as you will spare. I have none,so,i need s many as i can get, and plant now, it is hot already and my single blues are up and blooming,but not setting seeds this time. Maybe not enough plants. So its up to you telling me. And sending me your address. Then i can send you mine.