Ah, that is a shame, Paul, that your really lovely rose is just not recognised for the unique treasure it is. Without being disrespectful to other hybridisers (because for sure I know how hard it is, to find a pearl amongst the swine), I think it is possible to become a victim of success. The Austin roses broke new ground, back in the 70s and 80s but have all got a bit samey. It must be hard to take risks with unusual hybrids, wild cards, experiments, specially with a business empire and a fan base to cultivate.......but sometimes, really good things come out of an insane whim and an idealistic optimism. I might be wrong but I feel there is an increasing appetite for a less complicated type of gardening, freer, looser, back to basics. I am sure a rose such as Fed.Lav 08 could gain traction. I certainly hope you do not get disheartened and fail to take the road less traveled. Ah well, I guess I could try Hans, Kim, and a bit more standing on the shoulders of giants and revive my pollinating brush (an ancient make-up brush which last saw cosmetic use around 1984)....and yep, Seil, I caved in shamefully fast - I got the practicals OK but honestly, I used any old roses including notorious rubbish.....and then got distracted with woodlands and stuff. I am used to a high attrition rate so not gnashing (imaginary) teeth.

The bigger question is how much space you have. I see that you are in Zone 9a. California? Florida? R. baenksiae lutea will become gigantic in a mild climate. Ours leaped the 7-ft fence, climbed a ficus tree, and waves around about 25 ft up. At the same time, it rambled along the top of the fence, around the corner, and is now heading into the patio, maybe 25 ft. away. It has arched outward to steal the sun from three other good-sized roses. We are in Coastal Southern California, and most of the banksiae clan repeats here to some degree. Lutea can truly be termed remontant, here. Jeri

Jin, your RdR is growing beautifully! Damasks in FL can be a bit of a challenge, I believe, but dedicated and determined gardeners like you grow amazing surprises all the time. I look forward to hearing how your RdR develops over time. I suspect the color of mine will be a bit darker due to climate, but I've never see RdR in anything but a pretty shade of something raspberry to fuchsia. And that scent! That glorious scent. Country Care Roses looks like a great find! I hope independent nurseries live forever. They are the best. We need another one around here. I suspect both RVR and Joy Creek are on the verge of retiring. Heirloom Roses is plugging along, but the word "antique" was dropped from the name for a reason, darn it. I notice that prices keep going up, too. Desertgarden, you grew so many roses beautifully in LV, and it looks like your RdR was no exception! You've got a couple of green thumbs, for sure. TX can be challenging in its own ways, but I doubt it's more challenging than Nevada. It's just different. Can you remind me where you landed? (TX is so varied--from miles of sand and tumbleweeds to forest.) I think you're in West TX? If so, the following applies: Like Sheila said, just irrigate. You know that drill! Given climate change and water shortages, I'd go for keeping my roses up to par with direct irrigation, and then I'd interplant with drought tolerant plants. I'd put in plenty of walkways which break up the beds and give my nose easy access to all the wonderful scents. In TX, ARE is indispensable, but I'll bet your experience with "desert gardening" will serve you equally well, and nurseries that specialize in hot and dry will still be good choices for shopping and advice. How convenient that you could just keep your forum moniker "Desert Garden," yes? I believe RdR will grow nicely for you if you grew it in NV. The bloom color will be lighter than mine, but I've seen RdR flower nicely in TX heat. It didn't faint, and looked a lot like your LV photo. If you decide to plant Jacques C/Marchesa B, too, I'd put it somewhere where it misses the hottest very late afternoon sun so the blooms stay fresher longer. Please post as your garden grows! I would love to witness your strategies in action and visit my state of origin without driving across the southwest in summer. :-) Carol

@jodydoss Yes! You are my west coast Climbing Jacques mate! I think we are rare twins. :) It’s so great to meet you and see another JC the size of mine! I guess Heirloom somehow stocked at least a couple of these climbers back in the day. Mine is around 20 years old, too. It’s interesting that Climbing JC was never listed in their catalogs. Your plant looks to be much better sited than mine, next to your pretty arch with a crabapple tree to climb. I need to retrofit some kind of not-too-awkwardly-placed support under its unexpectedly giant self. As soon as I get a skinny minute, I’m planning to post some shots on HMF. There is literally one photo of this rose, and it’s a close-up of an open bloom. Your Climbing JC is SPECTACULAR! If you have a chance to post that full shot of yours on HMF, I bet everyone would be as thrilled as I am to see it. Thank you so much for connecting on this thread! I’ve felt pretty alone on Planet Climbing JC. Carol