Here is my revised list: Revised 'Old Garden Roses' for Small Gardens Dream List (08/21/2013) 1. Autumn Damask (Damask ancient) (gets big but I like it. I have to figure how to use it. I like this rose because of its rose history) 2. Boule de Neige (Bourbon, 1867) 3. Honoraine de Brabant (Bourbon, age unknown) (gets big but I like it. I have to figure how to use it) 4. Maggie (Bourbon found 1980) 5. Souvenir de la Malmaison (Bourbon introduced 1843) 6. Madame Cornelissen (Bourbon introduced 1860 to 1869) (Thank you Ingrid_vc for the suggestion) 7. Beauty of Rosemawr (Tea, 1903) 8. Westside Road Cream Tea (Thank you Luxrosa for the suggestion) 9. Captain Harry Stebbins (Hybrid Tea discovered 1980) 10. Devoniensis (Tea, Foster 1838) (Thank you Ingrid_vc) 11. Francis Dubreuil (Tea 1984) 12. Comtesse du Cayla (China 1902) 13. Fabvier (Hybrid China before 1929) (Thank you Luxrosa for the suggestion) (does it have a fragrance?) 14. Green Rose (China prior to 1845) (I like this humble rose) 15. Old Blush (China Hybrid, 1852) (I like this rose because of its rose history) 16. Fritz Nobis (Floribunda, Shrub 1940) (not a OGR; gets big but I like it. I have to figure how to use it) 17. La France (Hybrid Tea 1867) 18. The Doctor (Tea Hybrid, 1936) 19. Marchesa Bocella (Hybrid Perpetual, 1842) 20. Barbara's Pasture Rose (Hybrid Perpetual, found rose) (Thank you Rosefolly) 21. Enfant de France (Hybrid Perpetual, 1860) 22. Duke of Edinburgh (Hybrid Perpetual, 1860 to 1869) 23. La Reine (Hybrid Perpetual, 1842)

Ok, here's one for you, my plants will be 2 years old next year, hopefully they'll put on a great show this summer. Guess this plant, botanical and common name please? Sharon

Carnivorus plants... Would you want it around holloween time? I would figure, but sence most of them go dormant around this time of year. Theirs Black Parrot Tulip, like some one stated earlyer their are tons of bulb's that get cool names and are darker in color... But a Venus Flytrap brings horror to mind a sundew, and a Pitcher plants? evil looking!!! theirs a fourm on hear if you havent noticed... Sundew http://www.californiacarnivores.com/sundews.shtml Pitcher plant http://www.californiacarnivores.com/sarracenia.shtml Venus flyraps http://www.californiacarnivores.com/venus_flytraps.shtml Cobra plant http://www.californiacarnivores.com/cobra_lily.shtml (those are the ones you can mostly grow outdoors that i have growing outdoors, cept the cobra plant i only have seeds of them starting them soon) If you want more pictures go on to google or the CP fourm to see some good pictures of other CP's Hope you find what you are looking for Cheers

The Botany of Desire and Second Nature both by Michael Pollan are excellent. The Truth About Garden Remedies Jeff Gilman A scientific but readable analysis of home-brewed concoctions -- very helpful. The American Woodland Garden Rick Darke Gorgeous photography. The Intimate Garden Gordon and Mary Hayward And enviable -- this book is full of before and after pics. I especially like the weeds left in the grass areas, lawns are so boring. And speak of the devil, American Green:The Obsessive Quest for the Perfect Lawn Ted Steinberg Details the brainwashing of homeowners by lawn care companies. The Wild Gardener Peter Loewer History, literature, botany and practical advice in brief essays -- excellent reference. Color For Adventurous Gardeners The Late, Great Sir Christopher Lloyd Alas, I haven't made it to Great Dixter yet. I hope the Trust is able to maintain the property. In general, I go for text over pictures. When I browse garden books, if it has a full glossy of marigolds, I put it back on the shelf. I think that the best way to develop a gardener's eye is to visit gardens, take lots of your own pictures of things you find pleasing, and then figure out why you are drawn to the scene. Hayward's book and anything by Piet Oudolf are excellent guides to learning this process.