bummer, I got 350 k miles out my BMW's FP. Running an electric pump out of gas will kill 'em fast. When I'm messing around with my spare pump, I run a little MMO through it.

Planto Thank you (good eyes!). That is actually just a 'garden debris', bits from the pine trees (there are needles in all my pots too). I should have take photo after. And the other one you circled in white is actually very small dent. I have found & tried to remove other 2 I am wondering about when inspecting for possible bugs (bringing them in from garden). No webs, luckily, so far didn't find any other bugs. These haws have been pupping like crazy, some of the pups actually split the older leaves (circled in photo below) - hopefully it's visible. And some more debris from the pine tree is visible on bottom left in this photo too. Rina

Well, Chas, the leaf looks like a caterpillar of some sort, but as for the bits of stick underneath, well, reminds me of what white cockatoos do to my African Tulip tree and other things around the place; they take a few bites and then just drop the rest and start on a new one - seed pod usually of the African Tulip tree. Bird damage? When do you find it Chas, early in the morning? what birds are about? any caterpillars? Looks like something is chewing the stems in half and then just dropping the bits to rot! Ummmm, suspect it's a nocturnal something or other. Dunno what else, what about going out at night with a torch, surprising what you can find in your garden at night mate!

Thanks Bill, I'm 99percent sure it was rats or mice and we might have to wait until I put in peas and beans later in he spring. Chas