Most climbing sports of modern roses do not perform as well as the bushes. At least that's been my experience. Perhaps it just a result of my growing zone where winter dieback forces us to start with a severely pruned plant each year? Except for a few, the concensus seems to be the same from most growers. I believe there are many other good climbers that meet your color needs and perform much better.

Okay.... so it looks like I'll have to evaluate AF this season and see how she does. I originally said that I give my roses no special care... no spraying because we live along a tidal river with lots of birds and animal life... no dusting, no fertilizing.... just renewed compost each spring and watering occasionally. We have a wide variety of roses, love them and try to be as organic/non-chemical as possible. But I can still recall the color ... the ruffled petals and fragrance of the Angel Face I grew about 30 years ago in my first home. Loved that rose!

Aloha is my desert isle, if-only-one rose. Generous nearly continuous bloom from early to late on a sturdy yet flexible framework with impeccable health here in blackspot country no spray. Sumptuous large quartered flowers with subtle undertones show that lit from within quality, pack a rich delicious fragrance of damask & fruit (not apple as HMF states), last two weeks in the garden or cut, unfurl slowly & drop their petals cleanly. A mature Aloha here, grown from a gallon ownroot, reaches 14' high. (ARE's height of 6-8' describes its form grown as a freestanding shrub & they list it with large shrubs in their print catalog.) Blooms are routinely 5" & larger in Autumn. Bloom is also very full all over the plant, which is literally studded with blooms. Grown in an ESE location, mine receives morning sun till 1 pm then dappled shade through much of the Summer, but as the Sun's arc shifts in Autumn, enjoys less than 4 hours of direct sun. Last blooms just finished & the display was only slightly less full than earlier in the season. Big fat hips form decoration through the cold months. Deadheading through the bloom season is optional as bloom continues regardless, very nice quality for the high growth. Thorns are well spaced along the branches, so find it easy to work with. Cane hardy to the tips down to -4F. (Lowest temp for the 18 years we've lived here.) Do order this one, and later its sport, Dixieland Linda aka Lady Ashe. Others on your list landed here only this year & received my usual routine of pinching all but one bud each as first year own roots. Can merely report their foliage is clean so far no spray & they've grown enthusiastically. Like you, researched for health no spray, bloom, fragrance & suitability for my conditions. Found them likely candidates to give a go. Another new pair of Alohas, Climbing Caroline Testout, Climbing Crimson Glory, Felicia, Parade & Pinkie Climbing from your list growing on in pots. Still debating Blossomtime & others ARE offers for order today while free shipping applies. Pairs of Cl. Crimson Glory & Westerland arrived from ARE this Fall & the shipping for 4 was $34 - almost enough for 2 more roses during their free ship sale. They send hefty plants with great root systems in specially designed protective packaging that's easily opened. Best buy in my book for older more developed own root roses at prices comparable to bands & gallons. Shipping for 4 broke down to $8.50 per rose via FedEx. A pair of 2-gallon Parades arrived mid October from K & M during their sale. Wanted to try that one for years, but put off by the color description as "rather harsh" by UK authors. Finally went ahead to see for myself, since the quality of light here on the 38th latitude softens the intensity of some saturated hues. Allowed a bud to develop on Parade & found the color very appealing & jewel toned. About to be nipped by a hard frost, cut it with a short stem to keep at my desk. Really too early to cut, it still managed to partially open & the fragrance was satisfyingly promising. Great luck with your choices! Sue

Thank you, straw. I think Khalid also grows the Cl. Crimson Glory. That one is a 'for sure' purchase. I really want CS, but may put it on a fence to make dead-heading easier. I think I've eliminated Felicia and Blossomtime for now due to sun issues. I really just want them all, but it's too much $$$! : ( I'm planning an arbor, but don't know how soon I can clear out that area, so I'll just wait and maybe get those along with parade later, but shipping is a killer. mad gallica on the antique site said I couldn't grow anything on a north wall, but I'm going to try anyway. ARE says Ballerina and Belinda are good for shade and while not as fragrant as I usually like, I can plant others in the front of this very deep sloped bed. I'm more interested in their health. I also decided florentina may be too red and clash with CG. I'm aslo getting Barcelona for the front so that's another colour to deal with. I think it's easier to mix cool pinks than any reds. I'm also getting Gruss an Aachen, Bolero and Molyneaux for elsewhere.