Hi guys and girls :o) Thank you for the advice! I was hoping it would be less complicated... :o/ But it seem that I have to wait the new flowering, then take new detailed pictures to show you. I have seen on HMF the pictures of 'Hugo Roller', but the flower shape is too globular. Flowers on my rose are ever-nodding, as you can easily see in my second picture. The colour in the last picture isn't the rule, I've posted it just to show how much it could be variable. Also, there's no records of 'Hugo Roller' in old italian catalogues, and it seems to be the same now everywhere in Europe. I was wondering about Niles Cochet, seeing the two older pictures of it on HMF, who looks almost identical. But I've never see first hand a labeled plant of a Cochet family (so curious, even Walter Branchi have never had these roses in his very large collection of Teas and Chinas...) Another quality of my rose is in her petals: they are very thin, like 'Mlle Franziska Frueger' or 'Mme Lambard'. That's why, I think, it balls so frequently. I have in my garden since few weeks, start growin', Maman Cochet: in a few more weeks, I'll be able to see if her foliage and flower shape are the same of my rose or not... Ciao!:o) Maurizio

Bgrose--It's the third rose up from the gold rose on the bottom right.(The fully opened apricot).--Ron

I used to have 2 MIP in my old garden. Such a stunning flower, but the plant does get black spot and mildew, and was THE ONLY rose in my garden to get rust. But I could overlook all that for the perfume. This plant is actually a seedling that came up under the original plant, she sets a lot of hips. The plant is very awkward. Good for growing against a post, or you can peg the cane horizontally along the ground.

Great you can keep it there and thank goodness it is not in front of me which reminds me of Jasmin' s screams and it means lunch for her chickens. As for me to my rescue are my kids and husband....lol. Hate those harmless creatures bec I usually end up getting hurt by running into the walls.