Thanks Campanula! I'll have to sit down with a cup of tea and go over your instructions. I live in California and we don't necessarily have frost each year, so perhaps it's not too late to start. What I can't figure out is how to remove the I.X.L. bush without removing most of the boxwood. I can't see the bottom of the rose, only it's bare legs which extend as high as my husband's truck. I'm sort of afraid of what I will unearth under there. There is some nice brickwork around the bed which you can barely see under the boxwood. Carol, I really do like hybrid musks, of the ones you mention I especially like Penelope. I haven't measured it but the bed is roughly the size of my husband's truckbed. I'd say 6 feet long is a good estimate and maybe a bit less wider. Reading posts in this forum has had several results, the foremost is that I've learned a lot about roses. I've also learned to be thankful for my mild climate and to be really terrified of how big tea roses can grow here. B.R Cant is at the top of my list of tea roses to be terrified of after reading that it can be as big as a VW bus.

Hi Everyone, I was at Home Depot in Orillia and they have clematis' on for $5.00! Some where combinations of 2-3 small clemtatis' plants together so you have blooms at different times in the summer. Some were not combinations and marked with their names. Regardless, I picked up 4! Where else can you get 4 clematis plants for $20 bucks! Canadian Tire in Lindsay had them on sale for $6.99 last week, but they go back up to their regular price of $9.99. Anyone seen the following on sale or for a good price: "Endless Summer" Hydrangea Echinacea "Double Decker" (a.k.a. Doppelganger) & ÂRazzmatazz Semi-Dwarf Nectarines "Fantasia"

As this list gets longer and longer every year, it appears, at least to me, that there should be a seperate Queen for this classification (e.g. Mini-Flora Queen). When I first started exhibiting, this didn't seem to be a really big issue. But this mini-flora classification has opened the door to more possibilities and it might make it fair to the miniature growers to have the opportunity to win either a Mini Queen or a Mini-Flora Queen. It would have the added benefit of putting a few more winners on the show table (e.g. Mini-Flora Queen and her Court). The judges might like this also as the size of the Mini-Floras tends to be bigger than the true minis and would give them the chance to evaluate and judge both classifications. It might also give the public the chance to see this difference and thus appreciate it as well.

Jeri, Please don’t consider your input nit picking I welcome it. Only by pointing out corrections to these rose lists will it better serve there primary purpose. While I encourage corrections, e-mail is preferred as listed in header. Will do my best to answer some of your questions. “Irene Watts” is a Hybrid China 1896; it was changed and has to be exhibited as “Pink Gruss an Aachen” a Floribunda as the >>>>> indicates, similar to many other rose changes on the list. It’s also shown in the Floribunda class, as “Pink Gruss an Aachen” helping avoid any confusion. “Glendora” in the Hybrid Perpetual class should have had >>>>> indicating to See: “Joasine Hanet”. “Joasine Hanet” a Portland without the date 1882 but >>>>> indicated an addition to the name was missing. On subject of “Joasine Hanet”, In today’s May 2005 list of supplements to the 2005 “AEN”, I have “Joasine Hanet” listed as missing a DQ rose indication in the latest AEN, the entry should be DELETED. Working off two lists, ended up with “Joasine Hanet” and “Johasine Hanet” data, the latter of which is listed as a DQ in the 2005 an AEN. Another rose to DELETE is Pam’s Pink a “Found” rose that was to be removed from the 2004 list. I could not find “The Portland from Glendora” in the 2005 AEN, but there was a “Portland from Glendora” See; “Joasine Hanet”. Without knowing your involvement in roses, if you just like to grow roses or are also involved in exhibiting them. If you just grow roses, the information on the garden web forum will keep you posted on corrections and some of the new roses introduced. If you exhibit roses, there are rules and regulations everyone must follow. One rule has to do with the using the correct names of a rose. This is where the 2005 Official List of Approved Exhibition Names “AEN’s” comes in. It is one of the official ARS publications, which judges and exhibitors use to verify a roses name. Released in March, is supplemented each month with information from ARS publications until the next years AEN is published. Not every one that exhibits roses belongs to “ARS” and receives ARS latest publications. This is one reason for listing the new names of roses on the GW Forum and keeping these posts up front where others can benefit from them. Once posted to, moves the post down the line. Ron Schwerdt 5-31-05