Crepuscule and Banksian lutea

19 years ago

Crepuscule: This, I read in all rose mags and books, is one of the loveliest recurrent climbers and as I'm looking for a rose to grow up and over a 2.5 metre archway I'm thinking of this, however, can anyone who has one or who knows it's growth habit, tell me how tall it actually grows. I checked the size on the stock now available in Big W (roses provided by 'The Rose Company' via Yates) and the label indicates it only grows to 2 metres but on checking in my rose book, Rose Gardens of Aust. by Susan Irvine, it grows 4 metres by 3 metres. Who should I believe?

Banksian lutea: If crepusule is not suitable I have a spare Banksia L. available but I was told by a nursery person that it doesn't flower too well or at all in warm temp to sub-tropical areas, but my reference, Botanica's Roses book, indicates it's ok for warm areas (zones 4 to 10). I'm gardening in west Tweed Heads, suburb /village known as Terranora, in the hills just west of Tweed, zone 9. Can anybody tell me if this is true.

Much appreciate any assistance.

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janian
19 years ago
If you are wanting a good show over an arch. You can find no better rose to do the job than Crepuscule. Plant one either side and within months you will have a beautiful display.
cimmaron
19 years ago
Crepuscule is an accommodating rose-you can trim her to fit anywhere-Mine is over an arch and along a fence-she has a spread of around four metres long by two and a half metres tall-but is easy to keep trimmed if that is what you want to do.She is the most constantly in flower rose I have too.
Banksia lutea is VERY vigorous and as an arch rose you would need to trim it back severely at least once a year.
It flowers only once a year in early spring.
The great thing about Banksia lutea is that it is thornless.
Happy choosing
regards
sandie
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I'll not try Cl. Mme. Caroline Testout right now then,... I'm a beginner, and I think having stiff canes and big thorns on something I'm trying to train over an arbor (or even a wall) would be hard for me. If I get her, I'll try the bush form and just let it be a bush. Melissa, thanks for more info about training Crepuscule! that sounds pretty good! considering that I'm using pinks and hot pinks... would Crepuscule match ok...? The pictures I see online vary a lot. Sometimes it looks light yellow, sometimes peachy. Or would Cl. Lady Hillingdon be better for #4? I've heard people describe that one as being kindof a glowy light yellow, so that could be really nice with the other colors. I suppose I'm leaning away from using a pink climber in the #4 position since I'll have a pink climber on the front porch and a pink sakura tree (though that only blooms spring). I love sages and such, and I'm definitely going to use some sages and lavendars in the front with cl Eden (and I'm guessing I'll use Duchess de Brabrant under Eden) If I have room, maybe I can use some in the back, too? Right now I'm a little unclear on how much space there is. It's hard for me to imagine the size of the final roses and whether they'll tolerate some purple and/or yellow flowers growing with them...! a lot of people have had purple clematis growing along with their roses, but I think in this sunny spot that probably wouldnt' work. I'm lucky in that my neighbors have not done -anything- to their yard yet. There's nothing there but dirt. So I guess I can hope that they won't put a tree there? (or send them a plate of cookies with a request? haa...) As of yet, I don't have any neighbors on the south side at all. #9, I think, in the afternoon is getting shaded by the house. so probably not super scorcher? It sounds like based on what you guys said that I could probably use a Hybrid Musk,... sometimes you probably just have to try things, right?
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Hunty
19 years ago
I have crepuscule and I think she is a monster....grows everywhere and it is prolific at least in summer for me ( but I just know I am doing something wrong here!). It is healthy but I have seen a bit of BS on it. It sends very flexible canes everywhere and it is not very thorny. I am growing mine as a bush in the center of my garden. It is beautiful . I do not know about training her...but like all the other people said she might.
I hope you will enjoy it. I know I do.
barbara_b
19 years ago
Crepuscule would be my choice every time. It's a lovely rose and can stand a bit of hard pruning if need be. Mine is almost always in flower. I have one plant and it's covering a trellis 2Â½M X 2Â½M.
kevarose
19 years ago
I have 5 creps along my front verandah rail and in another post, I asked how to control the "monster" - well I went along with great big hedge loppers and cut all branches that stuck out from my rail by more than 10 cm or could not be quickly twisted around the rails. Instantly I had an "espaliered" rose covering my verandah rail. And now a week later, it is covered in a few buds and lots of new growth. I agree with Sandy - plant one on each side of your archway and be prepared to get aggressive once they have grown and you will have an archway to inspire!
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19 years ago
Thank you all for your very immediate responses, I think I'm convinced crepuscule is the way to go - 2 1/2 metres tall by 4 long (cimmaron above) is ok, it'll at least get up the top of the arch and its length should cover over. Or maybe I could plant it sideways! Joking, of course. and a bit of B.S., a bit's not a bother. On the Banksian, I knew it was big rose, really too big for the average archway and that I'd I have to prune away each year and that it isn't recurrent, so I think I'll repot that one and keep it for another spot somewhere. Thanks again and good gardening to all.

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